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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcann View Post
    so again you rolled a healer and expected to have amazing DPS?

    I mean i am a paladin and i have heal but that doesn't make me a healer. that would be like me going into the expac saying "man wtf Yoshi-P why didn't you give my heal any love! i wanna be a healer that can tank every once in a while"

    no if you want to play a DPS that has a heal play a redmage or summoner.
    Imagine if RDM achieved its damage by spamming 121212121212 and only occasionally weaved in a couple oGCDs. Congratulations. You now have what a standard healer rotation looks like. This is what healers are upset about. Unless content hits harder, they're already glorified DPS with boring DPS abilities. What we have seen thus far is more of the same... except even less DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Imagine if RDM achieved its damage by spamming 121212121212 and only occasionally weaved in a couple oGCDs. Congratulations. You now have what a standard healer rotation looks like. This is what healers are upset about. Unless content hits harder, they're already glorified DPS with boring DPS abilities. What we have seen thus far is more of the same... except even less DPS.
    But Red Mage is a job in the DPS role. It will obviously have a more robust DPS rotation.

    How does Red Mage's healing kit look?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    But Red Mage is a job in the DPS role. It will obviously have a more robust DPS rotation.

    How does Red Mage's healing kit look?
    Hence why I purposely said "and only occasionally weaved in a couple oGCDs" because that's how healing currently works. You primarily DPS and weave in a couple oGCDs every once in a while.

    You can give healers a thousand different ways to heal. It doesn't mean a thing if they never have to use half of them, which was the whole point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Hence why I purposely said "and only occasionally weaved in a couple oGCDs" because that's how healing currently works. You primarily DPS and weave in a couple oGCDs every once in a while.

    You can give healers a thousand different ways to heal. It doesn't mean a thing if they never have to use half of them, which was the whole point.
    Do you not think having so many methods to heal opens up encounter damage paradigms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Do you not think having so many methods to heal opens up encounter damage paradigms?
    Unfortunately, there's only so much they can do with that. If they upped outgoing damage significantly enough to really make experienced Healers have to spend most of their time healing, less experienced ones would probably be destroyed. And currently we have basically no evidence that encounter design is changing significantly. It's a huge IF, whereas the changes we have now are knowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Do you not think having so many methods to heal opens up encounter damage paradigms?
    Considering healers already have too many options at their disposal and nothing changed? No, I don't. I would welcome being wrong but the precedence has long been set and I don't foresee them changing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Considering healers already have too many options at their disposal and nothing changed? No, I don't. I would welcome being wrong but the precedence has long been set and I don't foresee them changing it.
    That's fair. It really all hangs on whether or not SE decides to change damage patterns now.
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