To FFXIV Team From a Concerned Machinist

[Kitfox]

I'd be happy if they got rid of Wildfire all together. Packing all our focus into a 10 second window out of every minute is fundamentally bad design.

I actually agree with this. While Wildfire has been the "identity" of the class, it's objectively the worst kind of burst window you can have, at least compared to any normal self buff or target debuff:
-there's no payload or gains until the effect ends
-you can't explode it manually
-single enemy target only so can't be be used for AoE

[LysLuc]

I actually agree with this. While Wildfire has been the "identity" of the class, it's objectively the worst kind of burst window you can have, at least compared to any normal self buff or target debuff:
-there's no payload or gains until the effect ends
-you can't explode it manually
-single enemy target only so can't be be used for AoE

The big issue is that this was SE's solution to wildfire going off when a boss goes invulnerable. HW Wildfire had a 15 seconds window, which made it a lot easier to get all the oGCDs in without to much double weaving. I don't understand why they didn't give Wildfire a detonator in SB.

And looking at other jobs burst, NIN has the same style burst, it's just a burst at the end of TA.

[Kitfox]

And looking at other jobs burst, NIN has the same style burst, it's just a burst at the end of TA.

NIN gets gains on every hit landed during TA, every hit made is stronger. WF gains nothing until it wears off, every hit is the same damage, WF is just an extra bit of damage at the end but only at the end. While NIN burst is similar in execution, TA is much better because of the instant gains. Additionally, it affects the party damage too.

Self buffs, like Overheat or Raging Strikes, have the advantages of no target needed and they can be applied for AoE. The disadvantage is that they don't affect the raid. Target debuffs, like Trick attack or Chain Stratagem, have the advantage of improving raid dps. The disadvantage is target requirement and single target only. Raid buffs are basically the best of both worlds. Wildfire is the worst of both worlds. That's the point I was trying to make.

[LysLuc]

NIN gets gains on every hit landed during TA, every hit made is stronger. WF gains nothing until it wears off, every hit is the same damage, WF is just an extra bit of damage at the end but only at the end. While NIN burst is similar in execution, TA is much better because of the instant gains. Additionally, it affects the party damage too.

Self buffs, like Overheat or Raging Strikes, have the advantages of no target needed and they can be applied for AoE. The disadvantage is that they don't affect the raid. Target debuffs, like Trick attack or Chain Stratagem, have the advantage of improving raid dps. The disadvantage is target requirement and single target only. Raid buffs are basically the best of both worlds. Wildfire is the worst of both worlds. That's the point I was trying to make.

The thing MCH has as well is an AoE Hypercharge, which would benefit in an AoE situation and it would buff everybody, meanwhile TA is only single target. I get that Wildfire doesnt benefit everybody, but that's why it's a damage buff for us that feels better then pressing 1 button and getting a free 20% damage up.

Wanting Wildfire to be the best of both worlds would make MCH manditory in every raid situation because of the combination of Hypercharge and Wildfire. We would end up even more overpowered then BRD when it comes to raid utility. Especially with how Hypercharge would always line up with TA, while Foe's doesnt.

[Jollyy5]

Wildfire wouldn't be too bad otherwise, but the fact that it requires you to use all you skills and abilities on it, and that it can just go waste if the target dies or goes invulnerable/leaves is awful.

You should never lose such a big chunk of your DPS just because you don't know a fight to a T, which only comes with multiple successful runs, and even then it's possible to push mechanics with enough rDPS and screw up anyway.

[Kitfox]

...but that's why it's a damage buff for us that feels better then pressing 1 button and getting a free 20% damage up.

I dunno man, I would be much more happy with a 25% self-buff than with WF. It's just objectively better.

Wanting Wildfire to be the best of both worlds would make MCH manditory in every raid situation because of the combination of Hypercharge and Wildfire. We would end up even more overpowered then BRD when it comes to raid utility. Especially with how Hypercharge would always line up with TA, while Foe's doesnt.

Everything can be balanced. I'm just talking conceptually here.

Especially with how Hypercharge would always line up with TA, while Foe's doesnt.

Foe does line up with TA, you can basically use it whenever you please. Why would you not use it for TA windows? As far as I know, it's always timed in sync with raid buff windows, mostly the 2 and 3 minute multiples, which do in fact include TA.

[Grimoire-M]

If Wildfire was a stack-based debuff and persisted until fully consumed, then it would be fine. It doesn't matter what the timer on it is. It will always expire at a bad time without knowing a fight. It's only a bad skill because you can lose the payoff. Guarantee that you'll always get that payoff, however, and it works fine.

[Duskane]

i think a nice fix for wild fire would be to only start ticking down when you actually hit the target with a weapon skill
but to rework it be better

[Rockette]

I don't play MCH (it's too hard, I tried, flamethrower is awful) but I do sympathize with MCH players. You guys have 100% been totally ignored and the class is just so rare to see.

I do main monk and that has also been largely ignored and thrown bandaid fixes. Which ended up in a absolutely unintended change to monks rotation which I'm very much enjoying. Now, I'm worried that any sort of "fix" will throw monk right back with the unplayables. The whole becareful what you wish for thing is strong on these forums T.T

I hope you guys get your class fixed.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Don't worry MCH mains, us WHMs knows what it's like to see your peers buffed to the sky and you sit there forgotten until the next expansion "fixes" you and you're even halfway decent until they realize you're doing slightly good for yourself and buffs everyone else up again to compensate.....

;_;