Pyros... it's going to be lit

[Alleo]

"The secondaries [of your relic] are randomized so if you want high stats, you're going to have to reroll multiple times"

Well no matter how good the last one might be, I wont set foot into this..so much work for a copy of a failed content..and instead of at least getting some truly new ideas for the relic weapons, we are forced into one content if we want to, still have to farm Light and drops and now have to even deal with more RNG..

Do they even learn from past mistakes? Its like...*has no words for that*

[BreyVoreas93]

Where was this discussed?? Did I miss a live letter? Anyone with a source/article, I would just like to read through myself. This may be the end of it for me, I have a Pagos relic finished but I will not work on something that has to be retooled to the RNG gods for suitable secondaries.....this is absurd!

[ManuelBravo]

Well no matter how good the last one might be, I wont set foot into this..so much work for a copy of a failed content..and instead of at least getting some truly new ideas for the relic weapons, we are forced into one content if we want to, still have to farm Light and drops and now have to even deal with more RNG..

Do they even learn from past mistakes? Its like...*has no words for that*

For one is not forced content it's optional. The funny thing is no matter how much we complain people still do it. Also if you looked into the way feed back is being submitted on the last Producer letter http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/374760 they are listening to suggestions. Some of us do Like Eureka even though it could be hell sometimes. As for relic it's just an easy way to catch up who did not do previous along with gear. More updates will be coming and sadly those who have the same perspective of " I won't set foot into this..." always end up doing so sooner or later.

[Zephanoa]

I am good with it if it comes close to Anemos. I am also good with the stats because to me it won't matter in the end. The weapon will be relegated to glamour by this time next year if indications of an expansion release are right.

[NessaWyvern]

Welp, looks like my relic is just going to be for glamour, I really don't feel like grinding for RNG any more than I have to.

[Floortank]

Anemos was reasonable. Pagos has too much RNG. I'll keep doing Eureka, I'm not as big a hater as others, but Pagos is a big step down from Anemos.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

"The secondaries [of your relic] are randomized so if you want high stats, you're going to have to reroll multiple times"

I don't really understand the dev's fixation with needless RNG. After a certain point, it just becomes randomness for the sake of randomness.

[Jxnibbles]

Rng secondary stats.. wow they seriously learn nothing.

[Corue]

They're gonna make it another light grind where you have to farm a certain amount in order to reroll your stats. If you don't get the stats you want you'll have to do the grind all over again but you have to farm more and more light for each reroll you do.
Lasting Content™

[ChaoticCrimson]

I don't really understand the dev's fixation with needless RNG. After a certain point, it just becomes randomness for the sake of randomness.

Because it's a lazy way of making content more "long-lasting"... Or it would be, if players actually wanted to put up with that. I don't see what's wrong with having a set, fixed goal point. I don't mind a grind, but only as long as I can see where I'm going, how close I am to reaching the goal, and actually be able to plan things out. It's an entirely different thing when you have to rely on RNGesus with no real rhyme or reason to what you're doing.