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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    *"Dark passenger has no reason to be on my hotbar". Fixd
    AND
    *"Drk has no enmity maintenance in ST rotation" Fixd (plunge)
    I'm going to go ahead and say double fixed since both dark passenger and plunge gained enmity modifiers, though dark passenger isn't something to spam on single targets we see a great aoe tool in this change and solidifies it as a gain whenever there are two or more targets. I think this is a great list of changes, and I'm really looking forward to trying them out next week!

    I especially love the idea of trying to time my sole survivor with tbn, shield 20% of my HP and then restore 20% of my HP (and sometimes 30%), I can see this as being very engaging. Sole Survivor sounds like an awesome change!
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 05-19-2018 at 04:44 AM.

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    Izsha Azel
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    though dark passenger isn't something to spam on single targets we see a great aoe tool in this change and solidifies it as a gain whenever there are two or more targets.!
    Maybe I'm missing something on dark passenger, but why not spam it on single target? Instead of using an OGCD on DA to add 140 potency to (insert skill) just use an OGCD of the same MP cost to add 140 potency+Enmity (Or double up and do 2 DA worth of MP for 2 DA worth of damage+Enmity). I don't see why this isn't a complete replacement for 1-2 DA every time its up (mp allowing) while tanking. Of course not at the expense of a C&S/Grit DA etc that are worth more than the standard 140.

    Any time Passenger is up and you would use a DA for plain 140, why the heck wouldn't you use Passenger?

    Side note: Cant wait to see what the enmity mods are for plunge and passenger. I will definitely be playing Drk for pretty much everything except my savage raid static now.
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    Last edited by Izsha; 05-19-2018 at 05:31 AM.

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    Hildegarde Rosea
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something on dark passenger, but why not spam it on single target?
    That would be absolutely awesome if that was the case, I think that's what a lot of people want. But slashing debuff is a thing so it'll amount to a slight loss. Much less than before, so it's great for pulling probably and snap aggro, but not to be used on cooldown if you can help it.
    Maybe it's just me, but I would love to have more ways to use MP like this other than dark arts and TBN. I liked having that priority system of using MP and dark arts in Heavensward, we don't get that anymore aside from Carve and Spit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    That would be absolutely awesome if that was the case, I think that's what a lot of people want. But slashing debuff is a thing so it'll amount to a slight loss. Much less than before, so it's great for pulling probably and snap aggro, but not to be used on cooldown if you can help it.
    Maybe it's just me, but I would love to have more ways to use MP like this other than dark arts and TBN. I liked having that priority system of using MP and dark arts in Heavensward, we don't get that anymore aside from Carve and Spit.
    Derp. Completely brainfarted on slashing. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Derp. Completely brainfarted on slashing. Thanks!
    No problem. To be honest, I'd be completely 100% happy with Dark Passenger if it was as you mentioned. So close! Maybe reduce the dark arts potency compared to the baseline so it's not "too strong" for AoE if that's an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    No problem. To be honest, I'd be completely 100% happy with Dark Passenger if it was as you mentioned. So close! Maybe reduce the dark arts potency compared to the baseline so it's not "too strong" for AoE if that's an issue.
    Yeah takes a little of the ZOMG-ness out of it. I have wanted passenger to be a DPS neutral ST skill with enmity mod for ages. Got excited about my dream coming true and forgot the details. Still good snap agro, mana dump.

    This is just speculation, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it will have a LARGE enmity mod though and push it past DA plunge for enmity (Onslaught 10x level) making it VERY worth it as an enmity tool for the cost low cost of 16.8 potency for say, 1400 enmity. That's my hope anyway. Still a reasonable tool as is even with only a moderate enmity buff.

    HNNNG so hyped to play new drk. I really missed having snap agro whenever I change from war to drk. Smoother CD rotation. Will definitely be playing a ton more Drk once this goes live.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    Any time Passenger is up and you would use a DA for plain 140, why the heck wouldn't you use Passenger?
    i wouldn't use it because...

    - i want to save it for the enmity bonus when grabbing adds wich will spawn soon
    - slashing debuff is running and i will miss extra damage when using dark passenger instead of dark arts
    - i am simply so used to spamming dark arts now and ignoring dark passenger, that using dark passenger will break my muscle memory ^^
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