Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Reinha]

I tried both dungeons and compared the tomestone gains to Aetherochemical Research Facility.

Castrum: 40 minutes
Prae: 50 minutes
ARF: 25 minutes

Poetic tomes:
normal / roulette bonus / noob bonus
100 / 200 / 100
200 / 200 / 100
150 / - / 100

Poetic tomes per minute:
normal / roulette bonus / noob bonus / roulette and noob bonus
2,5 / 7,5 / 5 / 10
4 / 8 / 6 / 10
6 / - / 10 / -

If a first-timer is with you on the run, then MSQ roulette and ARF are equally efficient and offer the best tome gains. Without a new player MSQ roulette is better than ARF. MSQ dungeons are not worth running for Poetic tomes without the roulette bonus.

[Reynhart]

I tried both dungeons and compared the tomestone gains to Aetherochemical Research Facility.

Below lvl 60, you don't have access to ARF.

And there is also the Xp gain to take into account.

[Usho]

You can get done 2 ARF runs within the timeframe of finishing a non-skippable cutscene MSQ dungeons. MSQ roulette prior to 4.2 took like 15 or so mins to get done even with newbies and a lot of them just skipped the cutscenes anyway. Not everyone wants to sit through old cutscenes (which you will WATCH EVERYDAY I MIGHT ADD) you can just rewatch at a inn or on youtube.

As far as exp, I would get more or relatively the same exp from msq roulette doing Alliance Raid Roulette. As for tomes, farming via MSQ roulette is inefficient for the amount of time it will now take to finish them compared to just farming ARF x2 in the timeframe it would take to finish MSQ roulette now and you would get the same amount of tomes and with a run taking less time. If you don't mind rewatching the scene cutscenes over and over and over again everyday...fine. As for me, I value my time and won't touch msq roulette again and if i need to farm poetics I have other means to get them at a faster pace.

[The_Promised]

'''Duty Roulette Cutscenes'' with no bonus tomestomes. Than all the problems will be solved.

[Felis]

Remove unskipable cutsenes, put gates before every boss that only open if nobody watch a CS.
This way people who want can watch CS, while other can skip it and still wait fo those who watch CS.

[Krotoan]

Remove unskipable cutsenes, put gates before every boss that only open if nobody watch a CS.
This way people who want can watch CS, while other can skip it and still wait fo those who watch CS.

This would end up outing who was not skipping, and then speedrunners may votekick.

[XiXiQ]

This way people who want can watch CS, while other can skip it and still wait fo those who watch CS.

I don't see the point of this, it does not save anyone any time at all. I'd prefer to be watching a cutscene than a bunch of people standing about doing nothing. (and yes, it only serves to point out those who are watching so you know who to kick if it suits you - which was the original problem)

[Jxnibbles]

I don't see the point of this, it does not save anyone any time at all. I'd prefer to be watching a cutscene than a bunch of people standing about doing nothing. (and yes, it only serves to point out those who are watching so you know who to kick if it suits you - which was the original problem)

People who actually know what they are doing won't be doing "Nothing". Players can desynth and make gil technically while waiting.. Players can have stacks of 999 desynths if they know the right items.

We could wait at a roadblock and desynth instead we have auto cutscenes for 30 minutes. I could be doing something that I need to do while waiting on the new player who are watching cutscenes. As for the players who can't desynth they can go make food or something else in real life. If players wanted to wait for a new player in the cutscene before 4.2.. I could wait and desynth and still do something. I no longer get this option..

[XiXiQ]

People who actually know what they are doing won't be doing "Nothing".

Then everybody I have ever met clearly don't know what they are doing, I have never seen ANYONE EVER in 3+ years sit around and desynth in a MSQ dungeon. They just stand there (or some jump about, whoopee). They had their chance to do this previously, but no - they decided to kick new players watching cutscenes instead. Let them out of the cutscenes, and that is precisely what they will continue to do (rather than minding their own business "desynthing").

This is their reward. I've no sympathy, and this isn't going to make me any more/less likely to run them than before. In fact (and going by the queues I have seen so far) I suspect the only ones complaining about this now were first in line to toss any new player that come into these dungeons. So now they can stop running them and everyone else (the new people along with those content to show these people some patience and help) will continue to do it.

Frankly, I'm actually glad steamrolling newbies isn't an "efficient" use of anyone's time anymore.

[Jxnibbles]

Snip.. Frankly, I'm actually glad steamrolling newbies isn't an "efficient" use of anyone's time anymore.

Yet the content is still steamrolled because of item level people are still going to mass pull everything burn everything the only difference is everyone has to now watch cutscenes.

At this point may as well be consistent make every cutscene in every other duty follow this same formula. If no new players may as well force everyone to rewatch the cutscenes. Have every cutscene scroll just like the msq because new players apparently can all read and grasp the story at the same speed.

Not every new player wanted to watch 30 minutes of cutscenes.

As for nobody ever desynthing I already stated players who are efficient will desynth while waiting for players. Just because you never seen it in 3 years doesn't mean people won't desynth in duties and not every person who desynthesis items kicks new players.

Who is they that "kicked" new players? People who jumped? Players who desnyth?