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  1. #11
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    Jijifli's Avatar
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    Not going to happen. Customers who are bad and don't want to get better will stop being customers.
    Wouldn't mind it personally. Had a SAM in Sirensong with all 120 gear. They apparently didn't even know until the end where they apologized, but before that they were mad at the healer for not healing them through one shots. If Square just put a 230 requirement on Sirensong that wouldn't be an issue.
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  2. #12
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Yes, I think it would be helpful if they did this. If someone is leveling a job that they didn't have gear raining from the sky for while going through the msq, they might just not realize what they have on is a little too low for the next thing they are trying to queue for or might not stop to think of the potential that they'll end up in something they are undeargeared for if doing a roulette. Personally I'd much rather have the game tell me I need to up my ilevel then allow me into something where I'm basically useless.
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  3. #13
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Yes. Vendors sell the required gear all the way up to 68. It's the height of insanity to allow someone using level 60 gear into Castrum Abania where they get blasted to smithereens and don't know why. A restriction is going to at least force them to recognize what the issue is.

    They don't need to be strict requirements, but I had someone tanking Sohm Al yesterday wearing broken white level 30 boots. There's no reason that has to be a thing.
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  4. #14
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    Futhaammah Nesro
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    dunno if someone mentioned this already, but here's an alternative
    Ilvl syncing up to a standard for a leveling dungeon. basically static stats during those.
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  5. #15
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer View Post
    dunno if someone mentioned this already, but here's an alternative
    Ilvl syncing up to a standard for a leveling dungeon. basically static stats during those.
    The game is all about gearing up and improving your stats through means outside of your character. If your suggestion is followed all it'll do is make a lot of people unaware of the system and being overwhelmed when they finally hit the first ilvl wall. And given how ilvl (and glamour) grind is what this game is all about, they're not going to change that system.
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  6. #16
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer View Post
    dunno if someone mentioned this already, but here's an alternative
    Ilvl syncing up to a standard for a leveling dungeon. basically static stats during those.
    What'd be the point of gear then if you just get the free stats?
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  7. #17
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    Futhaammah Nesro
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    What'd be the point of gear then if you just get the free stats?
    improving your character outside of the instances, obviously. you put up with maximums already, what's making the whole thing static going to destroy?
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  8. #18
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    I once got Doma Castle while I was casually levelling my Scholar and I hadn't gotten any upgrades uh, at all since level 60.
    Alliance roulette was keeping me levelled so fast I kinda didn't put my mind to it.

    Well sure enough I was barely able to do the dungeon properly. I felt terrible, I was such a pain holding everyone back. We did it, the tank didn't want me to leave and was very forgiving, but I still felt bad the entire run lol.
    On the flip side I do love a challenge so there was that. But yes, I do agree that some ilvl requirements would be helpful.
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  9. #19
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    I feel like some leveling dungeons definitely need ilvl requirements.

    Specifically:
    Dusk Vigil
    The Vault
    Sirensong Sea
    Bardam’s Mettle/Doma Castle

    I feel like those four(five) are the “turning points” when it comes to leveling dungeons—i.e., when things either start to actually hurt (The Vault, Bardam’s Mettle/Doma Castle), and the beginning of a new expansion, where there will be a vast discrepancy in gear ilvls for players that were not playing during the in-between patches (going from i50 at the end of ARR to i130 by 2.55, i115 at the beginning of HW to i270 in 3.55, and i255 to the current i340 in 4.1–and still going up!).

    I’d propose the following minimum ilvls for each:
    Dusk Vigil: i115 (level 50 HW white gear)
    The Vault: i139 (level 56 white gear)
    Sirensong Sea: i255 (level 60 SB white gear)
    Bardam’s Mettle: i273 (level 64 white gear)
    Doma Castle: i279 (level 66 white gear)

    I would also be tempted to propose a minimum ilvl requirement for the first “endgame” dungeon (example: ARF, Ala Mhigo), specifically if the game continues to provide gear sets for players a la AF gear (like how SB gave out i290 gear for the level 70 job quest). Maybe make it slightly lower, but that could pose issues for HW’s ARF specifically, since the HW AF gear is locked behind Centurio Seals, and I am not sure if they have included an equivalent for completing the level 60 job quest, or if it’s still the same as it was in HW—my alts aren’t there yet. ;-;
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 12-27-2017 at 08:24 AM.

  10. #20
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by spagthetapdancer View Post
    improving your character outside of the instances, obviously. you put up with maximums already, what's making the whole thing static going to destroy?
    Can I get a list of outside content you're doing? Besides hunts that I still seem to have trouble finding at decent speeds, I can't think of anything.

    This request is obviously targetted towards people leveling alt jobs. Main story feeds you gear like crazy. They aren't doing ANYTHING in the open world when dungeons are the fastest way. Rarely do I see them doing fates during the wait.
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