Should SE sell Gil (similar to WOW Tokens)

[Reaperking386]

I am just wondering why SE has not done this yet, Bots and spammers are still common in the game and its really annoying to see some hacked account spamming for days. Would this not resolve the issue for FF, to promote in game time tokens for Gil? Potentially making them more revenue, while resolving this nuisance and allowing players to buy time with Gil? In my opinion its a win-win situation.

WoW Tokens: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ne...-the-wow-token

[Endeleon]

But then wouldn't that effectively make a sub game P2W? Uh, no thanks.

[Darkobra]

But then wouldn't that effectively make a sub game P2W? Uh, no thanks.

Win what? PLEASE show me where I can buy 340 gear with gil. Because everywhere I look, it's weekly lock-outs.

I'm serious. If you're claiming it's P2W with gil, I need to know where you're shopping that I'm not. I've subscribed to this thread! I can't wait to see this!

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Win what? PLEASE show me where I can buy 340 gear with gil. Because everywhere I look, it's weekly lock-outs.

I'm serious. If you're claiming it's P2W with gil, I need to know where you're shopping that I'm not. I've subscribed to this thread! I can't wait to see this!

Um OK, pentamelded 320 crafted set. For some classes some pieces like this are actually bis. Also the ones that aren't bis can come pretty close to put you in the ball park of elites for gear at least.

[Darkobra]

Um OK, pentamelded 320 crafted set. For some classes some pieces like this are actually bis. Also the ones that aren't bis can come pretty close to put you in the ball park of elites for gear at least.

That was the opposite of answering my question. Thanks for playing.

And I know, it's an MMO. You can literally walk through the game. Stay out the yellow circles, ten second warnings before attacks... The hardest challenge is finding people that have gamed before 2000 in this game. So... again. Pay to win WHAT?! I honest to God do raids while watching Gotham on Netflix so I have SOME form of mental stimulation. I mean, come on. Anthony Carrigan.

Also, would you REALLY spend real money on gear that'll be outdated in February? Sounds like Square ARE going to make some money out of this... GO SQUARE! WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT WILL FUND FF7 REMAKE!

[KDSilver]

Why are you talking about "P2W".

Win what ?
You can clear any type of content and be poor.
The game gives many way to get gear easily without spending a single gil.

Doing roulette, dungeons and quest are a sufficient source of gils to allow repairing, tp and such primary function.

So sorry but, no, the game won't be suddenly a "pay to win" because you'll be able to purchase money.

If one day, they sell Gear set with an ilvl above the one in game, then yes, that day, it could because pay to win.

But not by bying money.

HOWEVER, aside of that part.
I'm not particulary into that. I prefer our current system. It's fine as it is. There's already plenty of way to make money easily so...
No need to copy everything Wow does.

[Ilan]

I am just wondering why SE has not done this yet, Bots and spammers are still common in the game and its really annoying to see some hacked account spamming for days. Would this not resolve the issue for FF, to promote in game time tokens for Gil? Potentially making them more revenue, while resolving this nuisance and allowing players to buy time with Gil? In my opinion its a win-win situation.

WoW Tokens: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ne...-the-wow-token

The token will never be interesting enough to let RMT die out. They will always be cheaper and people will always buy there. I don't know if you play WoW but you still get RMT whispers over there.

[Aldora]

Ugh…. Please, not again.

Why no Plex system?
[Cash Shop Idea] Game Time Token
Token System/Subscription
It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV
SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

This subject has been discussed several times in the past and every single one of them became quite heated at that. The main issue people have with this is the mindset behind it.

One person says that that people will be able to buy game time with an in-game currency, so that they don't have to pay the subscription fee due to real life financial issues. Another person says that (s)he has so much in-game money, that they save spend it on buying game time through the market boards and save money. And finally another person says it's to battle RMT, by "legalizing" it through a token system like "Chronosphere/Plex/WoWTokens/etc".

But, why are we in this situation to begin with? Because players buy in-game currencies by spending real money through RMT. As long as there are people buying in-game currency with real money, there will always be RMT around the corner who will make full use of that opportunity. But, “legalizing” it is not the way to go.

RMT is a bannable offence and thus has to be punished. You buy gil? You suffer the consequence. Period.

The only wish i have is that SE hunts them down faster. Have a GM stand in each zone of the game and the second they see an RMT shout or receives one through tell, let the ban hammer fly. They can even suspend them until the internal investigation of their illicit activities/RMT Advertising has concluded.

RMT should not be tolerated and addressed with a firm hand. Not be “challenged” by introducing your own “Legal RMT”.

But, make no mistake. I’m all for the opportunity to gift game time to friends or family, but not like this. If you want to gift game time, either buy a game time card for them, or have the ability to purchase game time through the Mog station, which then can be sent directly to the SE account of person you want it to be sent. The person would then receive either a real life e-mail saying that their game time has been extended for the amount which has been paid for, or the person would receive an untradeable and unsellable item in the Moogle Mail box which will extend their game time upon use.

Game time should never be sold through in-game currency and the reason why is basically due to the question: “How much in-game currency do you think is game time worth?” Depending on who you ask, you will get a different answer every time.

Even if SE sets a fixed price for the tokens on the Market boards, if we take the housing system into account, how many people would actually be able to afford these tokens? There’s a very big disparity between players when it comes to their virtual income. Top tier crafters tend to have a heck of a lot more Gil than someone who only runs battle content on a casual level. So, why would only a “select group of players” be able to purchase game time through in-game currencies?

And if we turn this question around, if someone wants to get more Gil (to buy an in-game house or crafted raiding gear), they would be able to buy a Token and sell it on the Market boards. However, there are plenty of crafters who work for the Gil they earned. How would that be considered "fair" for the amount of time and effort the crafter has put into the game?

Even though the money is only moving around, the financial disparity between players will only increase over time.

This particular topic will always have 2 camps sitting at polar opposites of each other, who will never be able to agree with each other. I personally, am sitting at the camp that gives a firm “No” to a system that allows people buy game tokens which real money, which they can sell on the Market Boards for in-game currency. As well as allowing people to buy game-time with an in-game currency only.

They only way i would agree with such a token system is when:

• You can use it to buy Game Time for yourself through the MogStation, without needing to subscribe to the game. There are people who are having difficulties subscribing to this game, because their transaction keep getting denied their banks and they are forced to pay with “Crysta”. Or when people only want to play for 1 single month, without the hassle of starting and canceling a subscription. Make buying Game Time / Subscriptions easier for them.
• You can use it to gift Game Time to friends and family through the MogStation. The person would then receive either a real life e-mail saying that their game time has been extended for the amount which has been paid for, or the person would receive an untradeable and unsellable item in the Moogle Mail box which will extend their game time upon use.

That’s all i have to say about this topic.

I’ve said more than enough about why a system like this should not be implemented in FFXIV or any subscription base game for that matter.

You all have a pleasant day now. (^_^ )/ /bow *closes the door behind her*

[Xlantaa]

That's pay to win, more or less. If they do so, the game needs become subscription free.

[Mavrias]

That's pay to win, more or less. If they do so, the game needs become subscription free.

WoW does this and somehow magically it hasn't become a pay to win or a subscription free game.