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    How many likes and threads do we need to have to get a response for the chat issue?

    I am confused at this point why there has not been a single post on this issue yet. Why are we being ignored?Do we need some kind of number of likes for a thread explaining why taking away the chat was a bad idea? Or number of threads?

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...om-Ex-Roulette
    Mocking the idea of limiting no chat for PvP and not PvE. In my experience PvE is more toxic. (New healer tells tank to slow down pulls, no reply and makes huge pulls, wipes, people mouth off to the healer, etc)

    This thread currently has 11 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-CPUs-in-Feast
    Playing vs CPU in pvp, trying to get across how the no chat makes it feel like you are not playing with people anymore, it is dull unable to talk to people, 9 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...from-the-roots.
    A newer thread explaining part why this is an issue to begin with. a big point that is missed though how the game does not have any in game guide on PvP differences vs PvP, like distance effecting damage, what purify is, how healers might mistake purify is bugged because the in game tip is confusing and does not really explain well it can be used on others, 7 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-toxic-spaming
    A thread I made showing how toxicity can show and be promoted with the new system out now, 6 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...k-Chat-feature
    another thread asking where Dev replies are, 15 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-be-ripped-off.
    A small list of issues why the no chat is bad, 4 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...a-step-back%21
    A newer thread that is explaining how the change is a step back, 15 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mediocrity-why
    explaining this change hurts player improvement, 11 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...y-unacceptable.
    17 likes

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...n-in-The-Feast

    This is possibly one of the worst decisions SE could EVER make in regards to PvP

    most likely the first thread on this issue, 61 likes
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    If people here instead of making multiple thread about the same thing condesate everything in one thread maybe you guys will get a better chance of getting a response
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    I mean SE ignored us for the longest time to get rid of GC restrictions in frontlines (thank god they finally did it), so who knows how long it'll take for them to put chat back into feast if they ever even consider it
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    sorry i only came on here because of the PvP chat thing, where is the live letter that said this change was being planned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    sorry i only came on here because of the PvP chat thing, where is the live letter that said this change was being planned?
    I think the first one was live letter XXXIII.
    The digest would be here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...82016-12-13%29
    It was also mentioned in XXXIV, but I think XXXIII is the more interesting for this one. If you can speak japanese, feel free to try and translate what he says - the unofficial translation ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...4bpsBeJAQ/edit ) contains the note the chat was disabled because "it contained more harassment than strategy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    ...the chat was disabled because "it contained more harassment than strategy".
    I'd love to see where it is they get this data from, since it is incredibly false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    I'd love to see where it is they get this data from, since it is incredibly false.
    I don't know, the logs of all feast chat matches ever?

    It's pointless to argue against the data of the only people who have access to the complete data of something rather than anecdotal evidence. If you want to argue the claim, the way to go is to grab some fluent japanese speakers and prove word for word that they never said anything of the kind in the live letter and it's all been a mistranslation. And then we can go back to arguing why on earth they would disable chat in the first place and fun forum poster vs poster will be had. With unrestricted chat, guaranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    I don't know, the logs of all feast chat matches ever?

    It's pointless to argue against the data of the only people who have access to the complete data of something rather than anecdotal evidence. If you want to argue the claim, the way to go is to grab some fluent japanese speakers and prove word for word that they never said anything of the kind in the live letter and it's all been a mistranslation. And then we can go back to arguing why on earth they would disable chat in the first place and fun forum poster vs poster will be had. With unrestricted chat, guaranteed.
    I do not think they do, they only go by REPORTS, as i been saying all along, DF is more toxic then PvP is, but in DF they expect you take it and not say anything, pvp though i bet it is reported more often

    How much you wanna bet they also did not consider toxic chat based on throwing matches, if someone is doing that of course people gonna be out spoken on it

    Also this resisted chat is still open to toxicity, I seen more with it then without. Spamming good job or whatever because no one changes to healer and losing, so on.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 01-24-2017 at 11:24 AM.

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    Yet all those likes could be from the same people on each thread. Why don't you guys just come together and make one thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Yet all those likes could be from the same people on each thread. Why don't you guys just come together and make one thread.
    as said it was done when the announcement was made, now that hey got ignored this happens.
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