Monk Macros with Proper Rotation!

[Taika]

Show me your proof, thats all I have to say. And even if like you claim that it is 5%, lets says its 15%, how does it negate the fact that not once did I say this was the only way to play Monk or you must do my macros for Endgame?

The issue is you claimed this is a competitive way to play Monk, and it simply isn't because there's no way to pull competitive numbers in any content in this game using macros. Competitive in the context of this game means at least comparable to what above average players are able to do. And we know the averages because they are widely posted online for everyone to see.

[TheRealMadruck]

The issue is you claimed this is a competitive way to play Monk, and it simply isn't because there's no way to pull competitive numbers in any content in this game using macros. Competitive in the context of this game means at least comparable to what above average players are able to do. And we know the averages because they are widely posted online for everyone to see.

Again, it is competitive to all forms of content in FF14....why do you automatically assume that I was only speaking about Endgame? Please watch my 2nd video and see what I said to correlate this misconception. Macros are extremely useful on so many different occasions in FF14, but not once did I say it was sole for endgame and I apologize if the first video gave you that impression!

[Taika]

Again, it is competitive to all forms of content in FF14....why do you automatically assume that I was only speaking about Endgame?

I didn't assume anything. For this way of playing to be competitive, it would have to be able to provide DPS at least above average compared to other Monks. Because the competitiveness comes from comparison to other Monks. This is not content specific: you can compare using macros versus not using them in whatever content you wish. But using macros will always lose, and a player who uses macros will not be able to be competitive in comparison to a player who doesn't no matter what the content.

You're simply trying to promote an inferior way to play the game, and you descriping it as "competitive" is false.

[TheRealMadruck]

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Taika, I have factual data I posted on my 2nd video that shows that Macros are competitive with only a slight decrease to dps for casual and midcore content. As I have stated, I have never claimed that using only Macros is the only way to play Monk. You can consider it inferior as you like, but until you or anyone does a similar test and provides data that states to the contrary, everything else is pure speculation and theory....not based on facts. I have a public video showing that Macros do work for a number of different situations in game not just for Endgame. If you choose not to use Macros, that is your choice....but have the understanding that it is a built in system designed by SE for FF14 and if it was never supposed to be used......why hasnt Yoshi P or their Dev Team Pulled it from the FF14 system and why do they keep updating it with new commands?

[Taika]

Taika, I have factual data I posted on my 2nd video that shows that Macros are competitive with only a slight decrease to dps for casual and midcore content.

No, you have extremely limited data (1 fight comparison) showing that you using macros has certain % decrease in your DPS compared to your DPS when you don't use them. The data is not from level 60 and can't even be compared to actual current casual or midcore content (outside of leveling content) in the game. Furthermore, since your non-macro DPS in that data isn't even competitive for that level, the comparison doesn't prove anything even in that narrow context.

[TheRealMadruck]

No, you have data showing that you using macros has certain % decrease in your DPS compared to your DPS when you don't use them. The data is not from level 60 and can't even be compared to actual current casual or midcore content (outside of leveling content) in the game. Furthermore, since your non-macro DPS in that data isn't even competitive for that level, the comparison doesn't prove anything even in that narrow context.

What? Since when does anyone do Level 22 fates near Quarrelmill as an example as a level 60? There is such a thing as Level Sync which I assume you are aware of. Again, if you want to say my data is false, prove it with more than words! I want documented facts that the entire FF14 community can judge for themselves! Not just your own theories! You claim that my video has no basis of fact.....PROVE IT!

[Mwynn]

What? Since when does anyone do Level 22 fates near Quarrelmill as an example as a level 60? There is such a thing as Level Sync which I assume you are aware of. Again, if you want to say my data is false, prove it with more than words! I want documented facts that the entire FF14 community can judge for themselves! Not just your own theories! You claim that my video has no basis of fact.....PROVE IT!

Macros have 1 second Delay, Monks build on Crit/Det and not but atleast Skillspeed in the end.

Thus their Combo Abilities will come up faster and beat the 1 Second Delay that Macros has.

Good luck weaving in some OGCD Abilities, I'm pretty sure Macros are able to keep up the Speed!

The End.

[Brill_]

.but have the understanding that it is a built in system designed by SE for FF14 and if it was never supposed to be used......why hasnt Yoshi P or their Dev Team Pulled it from the FF14 system and why do they keep updating it with new commands?

By this logic, SE put One Ilm Punch in the game, therefore it should be put of the main monk rotation.

It's been stated many times in this thread, macros have their uses, macros for a dps rotation is not one of them.