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    Player
    Greydor's Avatar
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    Greydor Hylian
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    The developers have, on record, said that different playstyle is a valid reason to kick, and have stated that the 4 options are not all-encompassing and would not necessarily be related to the actual reason for kicking. It's literally just there for others to see why you want to kick them.
    Not trying to claim you're wrong, I'm inclined to believe this actually (because only 4 options for kick is questionable), but could you provide a source (or transcript) of them saying this? Until I know they've said this, I'm going to stick to the ethics of maintaining my vote-kick initiations to the 4 options listed.

    EDIT: Just saw this post. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

    SE, I'm pretty opposed to this. If the vote kick is all-encompassing, please remove the four options available. I'll have an ethical dilemma VK'ing someone for "harassment" only because they have a different play style.
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    Last edited by Greydor; 07-08-2016 at 06:21 AM.

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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Marauder Lv 50
    You might as well try to report them. Worth a shot...

    What they did isn't very cool at all :/
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    The developers have, on record, said that different playstyle is a valid reason to kick, and have stated that the 4 options are not all-encompassing and would not necessarily be related to the actual reason for kicking. It's literally just there for others to see why you want to kick them.
    Please provide this information you say is recorded somewhere. I'm not doubting you, just confused as one of the cardinal rules of Vote Kick has always been that you must not kick someone just because they have a different play style, unless it is directly aimed at disrupting play (eg a healer who refuses to heal at all because the moon is wrong or something).
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    Lisotte Poena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed
    There you go Pretty dumb IMO. I got vote kicked similarly from a Weeping City recently, though in that case they timed it so it would be at a normal ready check timing
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    Indira Light
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    This IS reportable, I once reported someone for kicking me because they weren't happy with the fact I was spiritbonding in a dungeon although I met the item level requirement before queing (no, I didn't change gear after entering the dungeon and my DPS was absolutely fine).

    I explained all of this and the GM's looked into it. I don't know if they were banned though as GM's don't provide you with that information.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    This IS reportable, I once reported someone for kicking me because they weren't happy with the fact I was spiritbonding in a dungeon although I met the item level requirement before queing (no, I didn't change gear after entering the dungeon and my DPS was absolutely fine).

    I explained all of this and the GM's looked into it. I don't know if they were banned though as GM's don't provide you with that information.
    Anything is reportable... You can report someone for just about anything you want and a GM will give you a cursory response. The question is whether it's actionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    Anything is reportable... You can report someone for just about anything you want and a GM will give you a cursory response. The question is whether it's actionable.
    It is actionable. I received a reply about how the behaviour is taken very seriously. It also gives a message when trying to kick someone that misuse is an offence.
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    Player MaikoRaines's Avatar
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    Maiko Raines
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    Excalibur
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    It is reportable. I had the same thing happen to me but as a healer. We did just fine and after the 2nd boss fight, no wipes, kept everyone topped up on HP, I was dismissed with no given reason either. The GM I spoke to when I made the report said that what they did is an abuse of the dismissal system and can be reported, and was told would be dealt with.

    When they asked me for details, they ask me for the time it happened, which dungeon and the names of the players - GM told me they have tools to verify everything so I am assuming that they have the ability to see the entire fight log. They ensured me that if any wrongdoings were performed that appropriate actions would be taken.

    While I don't doubt the GM's claims, what would those actions be? I hadn't gotten an answer...
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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Yes it is. Once, I run Lost City of Amdapor as DPS. Both healer and tank were friends, and the other DPS was new. He didn't know anything about the dungeon, so, he open every chest, summoning a Mimic one. THe mimic attacked him and the tank and healer ignore it. Me and the newie killed it and proced to the boss. Then the tank asked "WHo open the chest?" and immediately they assumed was the newie and vote kick him. I vote no, but they were 2. I left the dungeon after they kicked him (no sense play with those scrubs) and reported them for kicking without a reason. I got a message from GM saying that they will take actions after investigate. They of course didn't specify, probably just a warning. So yes, you can.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 07-08-2016 at 09:59 AM.

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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    They say they take actions but I really doubt they do
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