Can I report for being vote dismised?

[Gallus]

I have reported them already. They may or may not take action against them, either way I won't know (obviously), but at least I've done what I felt I had to. Maybe this was just an isolated incident and these 2 guys were having a bad afternoon and weren't on very good mood, in which case, I'll just have to deal with it, but there's always the chance this isn't the first time they do this, and if that's the case, SE should make sure they do not keep going around acting this way.

[Lisotte]

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed
There you go Pretty dumb IMO. I got vote kicked similarly from a Weeping City recently, though in that case they timed it so it would be at a normal ready check timing

[Alistaire]

If there was no communication within the party (and they can grab chat logs at the very least), you can't nail it down as different playstyle. Conspiring to kick people in FC Chat would also be a form of griefing.

No, you can't. They could be on voice chat. And multidotting is debatable vs aoe'ing depending on pull size. And they don't even have to be right about which is better for your situation.

It's reportable sure, and you could get lucky but I wouldn't count on it. The only way they'd be in the wrong AND be caught is if they said in game they were kicking you to get one of theirs in.

If they didn't like you not aoe'ing and said so in game, SE won't do a thing. Even if they said in voice chat "hey let's get our guy in but say in chat it's cause he's tossing dots instead of aoe'ing properly".

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed
There you go Pretty dumb IMO. I got vote kicked similarly from a Weeping City recently, though in that case they timed it so it would be at a normal ready check timing

Thanks for the link, been looking for that. And it's not dumb; sometimes it's downright necessary. I had a gordias normal fight we just weren't getting past dps checks, and after a wipe noticed a BRD was spamming Venomous Bite no less than 3 times in a row, and this was when there was only one target to attack. Called them out after the next wipe and got the "I play how I want" retort. So yeah, they got kicked, and I guarantee you plenty of people would never touch df for certain things if that ability was ever taken away.

[Greydor]

The developers have, on record, said that different playstyle is a valid reason to kick, and have stated that the 4 options are not all-encompassing and would not necessarily be related to the actual reason for kicking. It's literally just there for others to see why you want to kick them.

Not trying to claim you're wrong, I'm inclined to believe this actually (because only 4 options for kick is questionable), but could you provide a source (or transcript) of them saying this? Until I know they've said this, I'm going to stick to the ethics of maintaining my vote-kick initiations to the 4 options listed.

EDIT: Just saw this post. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

SE, I'm pretty opposed to this. If the vote kick is all-encompassing, please remove the four options available. I'll have an ethical dilemma VK'ing someone for "harassment" only because they have a different play style.

[RiceisNice]

Not trying to claim you're wrong, I'm inclined to believe this actually (because only 4 options for kick is questionable), but could you provide a source (or transcript) of them saying this? Until I know they've said this, I'm going to stick to the ethics of maintaining my vote-kick initiations to the 4 options listed.

EDIT: Just saw this post. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ically-allowed

SE, I'm pretty opposed to this. If the vote kick is all-encompassing, please remove the four options available. I'll have an ethical dilemma VK'ing someone for "harassment" only because they have a different play style.

This is why you sorta need GMs to "act human" rather than systematically handle everything. I mean just given a context of a recorded ingame chatlog (lack of thereof), you can distinquish the intent or hostlity between players and whether or not a kick was justified, further more if their actions reflect any form of griefing.

[WinterLuna]

This IS reportable, I once reported someone for kicking me because they weren't happy with the fact I was spiritbonding in a dungeon although I met the item level requirement before queing (no, I didn't change gear after entering the dungeon and my DPS was absolutely fine).

I explained all of this and the GM's looked into it. I don't know if they were banned though as GM's don't provide you with that information.

[Deathgiver]

This IS reportable, I once reported someone for kicking me because they weren't happy with the fact I was spiritbonding in a dungeon although I met the item level requirement before queing (no, I didn't change gear after entering the dungeon and my DPS was absolutely fine).

I explained all of this and the GM's looked into it. I don't know if they were banned though as GM's don't provide you with that information.

Anything is reportable... You can report someone for just about anything you want and a GM will give you a cursory response. The question is whether it's actionable.

[WinterLuna]

Anything is reportable... You can report someone for just about anything you want and a GM will give you a cursory response. The question is whether it's actionable.

It is actionable. I received a reply about how the behaviour is taken very seriously. It also gives a message when trying to kick someone that misuse is an offence.

[MaikoRaines]

It is reportable. I had the same thing happen to me but as a healer. We did just fine and after the 2nd boss fight, no wipes, kept everyone topped up on HP, I was dismissed with no given reason either. The GM I spoke to when I made the report said that what they did is an abuse of the dismissal system and can be reported, and was told would be dealt with.

When they asked me for details, they ask me for the time it happened, which dungeon and the names of the players - GM told me they have tools to verify everything so I am assuming that they have the ability to see the entire fight log. They ensured me that if any wrongdoings were performed that appropriate actions would be taken.

While I don't doubt the GM's claims, what would those actions be? I hadn't gotten an answer...

[Xlantaa]

Yes it is. Once, I run Lost City of Amdapor as DPS. Both healer and tank were friends, and the other DPS was new. He didn't know anything about the dungeon, so, he open every chest, summoning a Mimic one. THe mimic attacked him and the tank and healer ignore it. Me and the newie killed it and proced to the boss. Then the tank asked "WHo open the chest?" and immediately they assumed was the newie and vote kick him. I vote no, but they were 2. I left the dungeon after they kicked him (no sense play with those scrubs) and reported them for kicking without a reason. I got a message from GM saying that they will take actions after investigate. They of course didn't specify, probably just a warning. So yes, you can.