Do you want Dragoon to have a pet!? (poll)

[Wataruryu]

Dragoon = dragon slayer
Wyvern = dragon
Dragoon + Wyvern = Dead Wyvern

It was a pet peeve of mine in 11, it didn't make sense to slay a dragon to unlock the job then take one as a pet.
Besides, I would rather be a bad ass DD that's not dependent on some crappy little wyvern that just gets in the way of everyone's targeting and gets one shot on tougher fights and simply kills my over all damage.
It's dragoon, if you want a pet, wait for Summoner or Beast Master to be added.

First let me say I'm not for or against having a wyvern. I just want wanna play my favorite job in what ever form it takes, and I'll adapt to the changes such is my love for Dragoon. I how ever would like to point out that these arguments of the Dragoon (Dragon Knight) can't have wyvern because they dragon killers, only weakens your stance due to lack of knowledge of the dragoon lore over all. Go back and check it out. Though not present in the games; The lore was still put in place as Dragoon being a knight that raised, lived, rode upon, and fought along side dragons. If aDragoon did hunt a dragon it was of the evil verity, and having commune with dragons they had better understand on killing them.
Once again NOT FOR OR AGAINST wyvern, but if your gonna use the lore to argue against it. Please use what SE set forth as the back story of the job, not generalized assumptions.
Sorry but after seeing stuff like this posted in multiple threads, it started to drive me nuts. I love the job to much to see its back story rip apart. /Ducks and runs for cover.....please don"t kill me. 8D

[REDace0]

In the official live letter part ii translation Yoshi-P described a compromise that I haven't seen mentioned here, but is relevant.

Close to the end, near the 1:18:31 timestamp, he mentions that he'd like the wyvern to appear and attack while the Dragoon is performing a Jump attack. This could neatly solve the issue of a Dragoon having nothing to do while jumping, as I presume one would have control of the wyvern during this time.

[Reliquia]

In the official live letter part ii translation Yoshi-P described a compromise that I haven't seen mentioned here, but is relevant.

Close to the end, near the 1:18:31 timestamp, he mentions that he'd like the wyvern to appear and attack while the Dragoon is performing a Jump attack. This could neatly solve the issue of a Dragoon having nothing to do while jumping, as I presume one would have control of the wyvern during this time.

I read that as well, but the way I understood is is basically that there are wyvern looking effects or animations to certain abilities, if this is the case then I don't see how it makes any difference at all.

[Akuun]

First let me say I'm not for or against having a wyvern. I just want wanna play my favorite job in what ever form it takes, and I'll adapt to the changes such is my love for Dragoon. I how ever would like to point out that these arguments of the Dragoon (Dragon Knight) can't have wyvern because they dragon killers, only weakens your stance due to lack of knowledge of the dragoon lore over all. Go back and check it out. Though not present in the games; The lore was still put in place as Dragoon being a knight that raised, lived, rode upon, and fought along side dragons. If aDragoon did hunt a dragon it was of the evil verity, and having commune with dragons they had better understand on killing them.
Once again NOT FOR OR AGAINST wyvern, but if your gonna use the lore to argue against it. Please use what SE set forth as the back story of the job, not generalized assumptions.
Sorry but after seeing stuff like this posted in multiple threads, it started to drive me nuts. I love the job to much to see its back story rip apart. /Ducks and runs for cover.....please don"t kill me. 8D

All I have ever seen mention of dragons and dragoons working together in FF lore is in a really early game before dragoon was playable and XI.
And from a historical point Dragoons should use dragons (but dragons in this case are a type of firearm)

[Scherwiz]

Dragoon = dragon slayer
Wyvern = dragon
Dragoon + Wyvern = Dead Wyvern

It was a pet peeve of mine in 11, it didn't make sense to slay a dragon to unlock the job then take one as a pet.
Besides, I would rather be a bad ass DD that's not dependent on some crappy little wyvern that just gets in the way of everyone's targeting and gets one shot on tougher fights and simply kills my over all damage.
It's dragoon, if you want a pet, wait for Summoner or Beast Master to be added.

You do realize Wyverns arn't dragons, right?

[irongripz]

why not everything else is a copy/paste/rename from ffxi

[Akuun]

You do realize Wyverns arn't dragons, right?

Tell SE they're the ones that mixed it up in the first place.

[Wataruryu]

All I have ever seen mention of dragons and dragoons working together in FF lore is in a really early game before dragoon was playable and XI.
And from a historical point Dragoons should use dragons (but dragons in this case are a type of firearm)

The name Dragoon was used because of localization issues. The job originally goes by the name Dragon Knight, which it still does in its point of origin Japan; So real historical fact on the actual name Dragoon has no bearing on the lore set forth for Dragon Knight by SE. The fact is they have never changed the back ground lore on the job be it early games or to date hence the weak wyvern in ff11.

[Wataruryu]

You do realize Wyverns arn't dragons, right?

Wyverns are of the dragon kind, if you look it them up you will find almost all definitions to pretty much say the same thing. A winged two footed dragon cousin to the four legged dragon, making them dragon kind. Also learned while looking this up that cryptozoologists believe they exist, and that they are surviving pterosaurs from the age of dinosaurs. lmao

[Darkrose]

You know what a better ideas? Have both Class path.

There will be 2 path job lock for Dragoon, and the 2 class will have their own uniqueness strength and weakness. This will make everyone happy if they want a pet Wyvern or not.

Skills for the 2 path can be different to make both class unique of their own, and this is just some ideas.


1.) Dragoon with Wyvern path - Stronger TP attack skill with Wyvern assist for extra breath damage. Ability to jump while Wyvern assist attacking. Wyvern can use Healing Breath to heal or AOE heal everyone in party.

2.) Dragoon without Wyvern path - This path focus on executing their TP Attack without depend on wyvern, they are a bit weaker without wyvern because no Wyvern assist. There won't be any breath skills but have their own skills. Cannot heal breath, etc. They can however buff for a little more defend such as dragon scale. They can jump but no wyvern assist in attacking, etc.


I can think of more, there many skill can do to separate them. This make everyone happy because it be hard to satisfied both crowd without hurting the others.