The Fields of Glory (Shatter)

[Cherub]

So now that matches will be shortened, to the point where no real pvp happens and caster damage output on Crystals is lowered by roughly 50%....
So do we want to get rid of BLMs and SMNs? SMN is already shit compared to the other jobs because the nerf was too extreme. Yet it doesn't get a bandaid but it gets even worse by making them even more useless in the current most active pvp frontline. They won't kill people alone because healers are most likely just standing by and waiting for some damage to heal anyway(while cc'ing the enemy). Well that makes SMN the new DRK it seems.
BLM could still CC people fairly well. SMN can't. Both still useless though since now it's not a single bit about pvp anymore. Now, after all crsytal are gone the game ends. So BLM? Why? Just take a physical job, destroy crystals and be done with it. It's not like you're gonna sleep anyone anyway BECAUSE THERE IS NO ONE.
They're talking as if melees die everytime they get close and casters get a ridiculous amount of kills. Spoilers: They don't.
But no one gets the idea to make it based on ranged, the further away you are the less damage you do, when in melee range you do full damage. That'd be more fair to everyone.
BUT HEY LETS MAKE 2 JOBS UNDESIRABLE INSTEAD, WITH ONE OF THEM NOW BEING COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY UTTERLY USELESS AND LETS KEEP GC RESTRICTION FOR ANOTHER 5 YEARS. THATS WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR AFTER ALL RIGHT??? RIGHT??????

At this moment in time I feel genuinely sorry for SMN. The way this job has been treated is so wrong and it only gets worse. They should've just made pain and deathflare singletarget and left everything else as they are imo. Some people probably wouldn't like that but it's better than what has been done to them.

[Jashan]

Id like to know what are also the japans thoughts regarding pvp modes, i think they have an upper hand decisionwise, seeing the previous pvp modes if u are not able to improve u will be cut out by the pvp community and get a lot of bad feedback on you, increasing or have a nice tome rewards allows ppl to join the pvp only for the tomes and not for the pvp challenge someone can change their mind on that other instead Just dont care pvp at all. Having the gc pvp is a nice idea imo but since the community doesnt like u can try do other things with gc.

[BubblyBoar]

Just remove the GC restrictions. Seriously, I rather win trading than beefed up premades with dead queues.

[Ahnthistik]

Id like to know what are also the japans thoughts regarding pvp modes, i think they have an upper hand decisionwise, seeing the previous pvp modes if u are not able to improve u will be cut out by the pvp community and get a lot of bad feedback on you, increasing or have a nice tome rewards allows ppl to join the pvp only for the tomes and not for the pvp challenge someone can change their mind on that other instead Just dont care pvp at all. Having the gc pvp is a nice idea imo but since the community doesnt like u can try do other things with gc.

Japanese people want the removing of GC restrictions too, you can see this thread, which has more than +230 likes for that removal : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%8B%EF%BC%9F

And they asked it again after the changes coming in 3.35. They want to remove GC restrictions too, to play with their friends, not necessarily to faster queues because their queue are well balanced. But still, PvP was dead on NA and EU, with 3.35 PvP is burried.

[Geologo]

Just remove the GC restrictions. Seriously, I rather win trading than beefed up premades with dead queues.

also if they was so frightened from the premades, they can put other restrictions, like:
You can queue in no more than a light party + 2 light parties won't putted in the same match together,
Set a Full PT queue mode, with no achievment reward, accessible via Alliance (after splitted in 3 opponents full party) JUST FOR FUN, so people wont' trade it if SE fear it...

Mercenary mode for each GC that you unlocked, making the DutyRoulette ignore the the GC restriction and so on.

On this forum a lot of people gave a lot of interesting hints even to mitigate the problem and/or save the lore, and the last DEV reply about this problem, if I'm not wrong, was that they was about to remove it, and it was the late 2.x
Now we are just getting ignored, it's frustrating.

[SuperZay]

We’re aware of all the feedback on this topic including the requests to remove Grand Company restrictions. However, it’s not for lore reasons that we haven’t removed these limitations; it’s because we are concerned about PvP being abused in ways such as creating fixed matches resulting in moral degeneration.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...811-06-2015%29

Not sure how wintrading in the Seal Rock/Shatter could even work. Three teams of 8 losing matches in turns? With 33% average win rate for everyone? Isn't 33% average in any legit matches? Actually it's higher because I've seen a lot of Draws in Shatter.

[TiaHariberux3]

Japanese people want the removing of GC restrictions too, you can see this thread, which has more than +230 likes for that removal : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%8B%EF%BC%9F

And they asked it again after the changes coming in 3.35. They want to remove GC restrictions too, to play with their friends, not necessarily to faster queues because their queue are well balanced. But still, PvP was dead on NA and EU, with 3.35 PvP is burried.

You are from Balmung how come that its dead on EU dc? Its pretty active atm

[Ahnthistik]

You are from Balmung how come that its dead on EU dc? Its pretty active atm

Because I'm French and a lot of my friends who are playing on Ragnarok and Cerberus are telling me it's a mess on EU too.

[TiaHariberux3]

Because I'm French and a lot of my friends who are playing on Ragnarok and Cerberus are telling me it's a mess on EU too.

Its not a mess imo alot of active ppl change alot so we have good queue atm you rarely wait 20+ min I get insta pops (or 5min pops) all day and 72 even after prime time.

[Sashazor]

It's funny and sad how disillusioned SE is when it comes to PVP. It's also insulting when they continue to say "Please give us your feedback!" and then turn around and blatantly ignore it in favor of their poorly thought out, untested, idiotic changes.