Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
Reasonable means just being able to clear it. Expecting speed runs out of everyone means you are not accounting for the fact that there are players new to content, and that is pretty unquestionably unreasonable even just on the basis that they were all newbs once too.
Thank you. Those are my thoughts exactly. Next to the fact that the people who you are paired up with in that instance might be new/inexperienced with the content, there are also people who are not as good as the “Top Tier Raiders/Players”. But, that doesn’t mean they can’t get the job done.

As long as people are willing to cooperate with each other in order to clear said content, then that should be enough.

I know that people want to clear content as fast as they can, which is perfectly fine. But, if you notice that not every member of the party can keep up with the pace that’s being set, the first thing we should have to consider is to take it down a notch so that the entire team makes is through to the end. As a group/party/team. Not simply bash them for not being “good enough”, followed by kicking them from the group.

However, there are a few things though:
  • If you don’t know what the mechanics of an encounter are, ask your party for info. There is no shame in asking. There’s only shame in ignoring their questions, or refusing to reply.
  • If you see people struggle, lend them a hand. Don’t outright vote kick them without trying to help.
  • If a healer is struggling to keep the party alive, please do your utmost best to avoid getting damage. (As in, don’t stand in AoE’s and perhaps pull less)
  • If the party is struggling to meet the dps requirement to burn a boss down, then please… For the love of the Twelve, don’t ignore mechanics…
  • If a tank is struggling to keep hate, please try to focus your damage on the same monster the tank is focussing on. (During most parties, I see each dps class single target other monsters within the pack, instead of focussing on 1 specific monster and burning it down) In some cases, you’d want to pull your punches to let the tank generate some hate, instead of jumping into the fray while the tank is still trying to generate some base Enmity on the pack.

I’m not sure if others will agree with me, but whenever i look around (both in-game as well as irl), it seems that “Patience” is starting to become a “luxury item” which (apparently) people can’t afford anymore.