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    Fynlar Eira
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    No. Work with them. If it's a lost cause vote abandon.
    Vote abandon is for when at least half of the party wants to leave the duty.

    The typical dungeon run being talked about here is when 3 people want to continue, just not with the 4th person holding them back. Two totally different situations.

    You're out of your mind if you think people would be willing to give up their dungeon, whatever progress they made, and their DF queue time when they could just easily cut the tumor off instead.

    While the i230 wouldn't necessarily take effect, one must remember that the game lowers your stats in accordance to the max ilvl of the dungeon for the level sync. In essence, you are wearing all blues and are at the max level, which effectively makes you the most powerful possibility in that run.

    As such, say a tank just barely meets the minimum ilvl, it is feasible that dps can easily destroy a tanks threat even on the best of terms and cause issues all around. It isn't the fault of the tank being under geared; he meets the requirement. But, to that argument, I say it isn't the fault of the dps either considering they have no control over the algorithm used in regards to their stats.

    At that point it's up to the dps to gauge how much they can throw out that is sufficent with the tanks skill and ability. If it makes the run longer, so be it, because you were dealt the cards given.
    Thing is, if the rest of the party outclasses the dungeon that much, they're not likely to die if they rip a mob off the tank (usually it'll be a trash mob; if the DPS are ripping a boss off the tank and we're past like level 30 or so -- because ST tanking kinda sucks prior to that level -- the tank is simply not playing correctly). In other words, they often can still progress the dungeon just fine.

    This thread is talking about when someone's incompetence/horribly outdated gear/whatever actually prevents the party's progress.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 05-19-2016 at 10:01 AM.