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    Healer Accuracy Issue

    So this was from the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXIII Q&A back in July 2015:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...246971/?page=2

    "Q14. The healer equipment added in 3.0 is lacking accuracy. Will you be introducing gear with accuracy on it in the future?

    A14. In regards to weapons, we removed accuracy from the weapons for all jobs. We did this to eliminate situations where you couldn't use a new weapon with a high item level because it didn't have accuracy on it. We've made adjustments to the required accuracy, so even without accuracy on weapons it should be easier to land hits on enemies. In regards to armor, at the start of 2.0 there wasn't accuracy on healer equipment, but we added this later down the line. In the future if balance adjustments are necessary we may add accuracy to healer equipment again. Also, we understand that there are situations where you will not have enough accuracy when challenging 2.0 content with 3.0 weapons, and we will be addressing this. The development team did not make adjustments as if to say that healers should not to DPS."

    After doing Antitower and The Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) I think it's time the accuracy issue gets addressed by adding an accuracy boost to Cleric's Stance, like they did with the tanking stances, or some other solution.

    And before people go "Healer's shouldn't DPS, I don't want to DPS I want to heal, etc."
    If you want to just heal, fine. But healer's have the necessary tools to be able to DPS comfortably if you learn to use them correctly. Also, this comes straight from the NPC during the healer's Hall of the Novice training:


    For those of you who are struggling with DPSing as a healer and are wondering how it can be done, here's some tips and examples:

    White Mage:
    Prepull: Stoneskin
    During pull after tank establishes hate on everything: Divine Seal+Regen+Asylum(Medica2 if you want but usually Divine Seal Regen does the trick) Eye for an Eye, Virus
    DPS Phase: Holy's, Aero3, Assize, Stone3 etc.
    Tank's HP starts to dip low? Take off Cleric's Stance, Tetragrammaton(Or stay in Cleric's Stance and use Benediction)
    Notes: Divine Seal is an amazing skill that I rarely see White Mages use and should be available every pull since it's on a short cooldown. Use it with Regen and you'll notice how great it is. Great when paired with Medica2 as well if the party takes a big hit.

    Scholar:
    Prepull: Adloquium+Stoneskin
    During pull after tank establishes hate on everything: Rouse+Fairy doing it's thing, Eye for an Eye, Virus
    DPS Phase: Shadow Flare, Bio2, Miasma, Bio, Bane, Miasma2, Broil, Ruin2 etc.
    Tank's HP starts to dip low? Take off Cleric's Stance, Lustrate

    Astrologian:
    Prepull: Stoneskin+Aspected Benefic(Noct) prepull, switch to Diurnal Sect before battle starts.
    During pull after tank establishes hate on everything: Synastry tank+Aspected Benefic(Diurnal)+Collective Unconcious(Aspected Helios(Diurnal) if you want but the previous things should be fine) Disable. Optional:Time Dilation to extend the duration of the HoT's/Card buff.
    DPS Phase: Gravity, Dot's, Malefic2 etc.
    Tank's HP starts to dip low? Take off Cleric's Stance, Essential Dignity
    Notes: As with Divine Seal, Synastry is really amazing when paired with your Aspected heals.

    Again, if you want to only heal, fine. But for the healer's that want to help out with DPSing when no healing is needed, we need this accuracy issue resolved. This will keep getting worse and worse as we go into newer content.
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    Last edited by Roll; 03-03-2016 at 08:10 AM.

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    Meld accuracy, never worry about misses again. (For the foreseeable future )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Meld accuracy, never worry about misses again. (For the foreseeable future )
    Serious question. Does melding acc on every piece of lore/Alexander gear even reach the cap needed for it?
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    So as the accuracy cap to land hits rises, there's only so much melding accuracy will do for healers down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Serious question. Does melding acc on every piece of lore/Alexander gear even reach the cap needed for it?
    As far as I know, regardless of class, all DoW/DoM (and possibly DoH/DoL too) have 354 base accuracy. The i220+ raid/tome gear has 18 materia slots total.

    That means you can reach 516 accuracy before food with Grade IV accuracy materia or 570 accuracy before food with Grade V accuracy materia.

    The magic accuracy cap for A4S is 540, so that's certainly achievable, and you can probably reach acceptable hit rates in Midas Savage even with Grade IV and food, but unless i250+ gear has accuracy or more materia slots, it might be tough to manage in A9S+.

    It also means you're devoting all your melds to a DPS stat, rather than a healing stat.
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    hope SE removes acc for every1 come 4.0 , juggling acc isnt fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    hope SE removes acc for every1 come 4.0 , juggling acc isnt fun
    Or put accuracy on healer gear starting with 3.3 (or the melded accuracy will be not enough anymore after 3.3)
    Or it is a hidden way to push healers more to healing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibi View Post
    As far as I know, regardless of class, all DoW/DoM (and possibly DoH/DoL too) have 354 base accuracy. The i220+ raid/tome gear has 18 materia slots total.

    That means you can reach 516 accuracy before food with Grade IV accuracy materia or 570 accuracy before food with Grade V accuracy materia.

    The magic accuracy cap for A4S is 540, so that's certainly achievable, and you can probably reach acceptable hit rates in Midas Savage even with Grade IV and food, but unless i250+ gear has accuracy or more materia slots, it might be tough to manage in A9S+.

    It also means you're devoting all your melds to a DPS stat, rather than a healing stat.
    ^ Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Meld accuracy, never worry about misses again. (For the foreseeable future )
    Right now my accuracy is 354 without food. Meanwhile other jobs have 600+ accuracy. While melding accuracy is an option, I feel as though Mind is more important and melding accuracy to our gear will only bandaid the problem. Also, non-healer jobs have accuracy on their gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    Right now my accuracy is 354 without food. Meanwhile other jobs have 600+ accuracy. While melding accuracy is an option, I feel as though Mind is more important and melding accuracy to our gear will only bandaid the problem. Also, non-healer jobs have accuracy on their gear.
    You can't meld Mind onto anything as healer gear is already capped on mind....

    You can only meld main stats onto gear that doesn't have the main stat already (unless it's a piece of normal quality crafted gear, that's the only time it wouldn't be capped.)

    It's always been this way. :P

    I'm going full accuracy on my pieces personally, as most of my gear has crit capped on it without melds and even with the pieces that don't, making my broil, miasma, and energy drain not miss will have far more impact than a tiny bit more crit or det imo.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 03-03-2016 at 08:58 AM.

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