i do see your point and i did move to the middle my ideal situation would being able to keep any ability i earn now, future, and through guild marks because i have earned them. my concession to that was adding extra abilities that would allow for class uniqueness, but not take away the hard work myself and others have put into the game. the being able to equip many abilities and customize your character was a big selling point in the game which is the reason alot of hardcore gamers including myself purchased this game regardless of the negative reviews this game was given.

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"I do not see how you want character uniqueness but not at the cost of class uniqueness? Those are one in the same. Your class defines your character. If your class was a Juggler, your character isn't a Thaumaturge. At one point or the other if you want a defined character, you'll have to make a choice between your classes. Again I say that it's rather unfair that people get to use Marauder & Conjurer abilities incorporated into their Lancer because they leveled three to four classes while I only wanted the two. (Also seems selfish if you look at it.)"

isn't it unfair to punish the people that took the time to level those 4 characters? i understand you only want to level 2 classes and that is your right as playing the game as you want. i just don't see why people can't understand that just because some people do not like leveling multiple classes they should punish the rest of us that are still on grinding multiple classes to make ours the way we want.

i understand you only took the breaking horns as my only example and there are tons more i just brought up the horns as an example of my assisting people when a question that is asked because it was the last battleclass question i had answered in game.

btw no i did not take your view as rude at all. that's why we continue to have civil conversations is because we are both willing to look at the other side. i do understand there are people that only want a few classes and i do understand that, but i also realize that there are just as many people that have multiple classes we have leveled. i just only see people if they are a mage expected to have some of each thm and con spells and like gla having tanking abilities from other classes, but those are the types of things you already stated you would like to still cross class. this game is large enough for you to be able to run only 1 or 2 classes and still be welcome in any endgame scenarios that will eventually be implemented. i feel as though classes will eventually be raised to probably lvl 100 capped by the time it is all said and done and in that scenario i would have given up close to 2/3 of the abilities i would like to use. remember lvl 50 is in no way the cap that will be used in endgame scenarios and these abilities we are arguing over will be irrelevant by the time we get there besides just in solo environments.