petition to make leveling optional (ex. auto-50)

[Preypacer]

That has to be the most dumbest example ever.

Its nothing like that, is the Credits the best part?

And that's an equally dumb analogy.

The end game is "the best part" to some not all.

As usual, people are thinking only in terms of how it would benefit them in the short term, and not of how it could affect the game long-term.

What happens in practically every single MMORPG when the population levels off and not as many new people are playing? The game becomes top-heavy. What's the result of that? Lower level players complain of having not enough people to partake in content with, they get discouraged and leave.

What this "suggestion" is promoting is a similar outcome.

You might say "well if they want to do content with others, then they have the option to skip to level 50 also". But that's defeating the point... The point is, people who would like to do the tougher lower level content - without being PL'd through it - will have a tougher time of it due to a decreased low-level population.

What you're basically promoting is the potential increased frustration of future players, because some don't know how to to enjoy anything but level cap/end game in a MMORPG.

I know it's easier and more self-edifying to think in terms of solely what you want and what would benefit you and make the game better for you without regard for how what you want would affect many others who may not share your preferences.. However, please try to remember that you are playing with many others and that you do not speak for all of them.

[viion]

And that's an equally dumb analogy.

The end game is "the best part" to some not all.

As usual, people are thinking short-term about things only in terms of how it would benefit them in the short term, and not of how it could affect the game long-term.

What happens in practically every single MMORPG when the population levels off and not as many new people are playing? The game becomes top-heavy. What's the result of that? Lower level players complain of having not enough people to partake in content with, they get discouraged and leave.

What this "suggestion" is promoting is a similar outcome.

You might say "well if they want to do content with others, then they have the option to skip to level 50 also". But that's defeating the point... The point is, people who would like to do the tougher lower level content - without being PL'd through it - will have a tougher time of it due to a decreased low-level population.

What you're basically promoting is the potential increased frustration of future players, because some don't know how to to enjoy anything but level cap/end game in a MMORPG.

I know it's better to think in terms of solely what you want and what would benefit you and make the game better for you... But please try to remember that you are playing with many others and that you do not speak for all of them.

Implement Level Sync, new player asks around and joins a good LS and they sync to his level to experience as if they were his level. Solutions!

Also lets not talk to much about new players when they are already being turned off by the difficulty lol. Fix 1 thing at a time.

[Preypacer]

Implement Level Sync, new player asks around and joins a good LS and they sync to his level to experience as if they were his level. Solutions!

Also lets not talk to much about new players when they are already being turned off by the difficulty lol. Fix 1 thing at a time.

Players' reaction to the difficulty of the game =/= giving everyone a "Skip to 50 Free" card.

I have no problem with a level sync system, as long as its more carefully planned out and implemented, so it can't be abused the way it was in XI. The ability to sync down 50+ levels and ding 75 in a level 30 area effectively killed any high level groups in that game as well. If it's implemented in such a way that the ostensible purpose of it - friends and family able to group together without concern of level difference - but that can't be abused as a PL'ing system (the one currently in XIV due to the xp chain system is quite enough I think, considering how quickly people are packing on levels with it) - would be fine, in my opinion.

[Azurymber]

I personally think it would be a horrible idea but i see so many people arguing for it i thought it deserved a thread :x. So please don't try to pin this on me. I'm just trying to bring up a viewpoint prevalent across the community that deserves attention.

and its getting likes so clearly some support it :]

No need to make this personal good sirs and ma'ams

[Issac]

I personally think it would be a horrible idea but i see so many people arguing for it i thought it deserved a thread :x. So please don't try to pin this on me. I'm just trying to bring up a viewpoint prevalent across the community that deserves attention.

and its getting likes so clearly some support it :]

No need to make this personal good sirs and ma'ams

Yup, and guess what? Something like this ALREADY exists in the game! -.-

[Delsus]

I personally think it would be a horrible idea but i see so many people arguing for it i thought it deserved a thread :x. So please don't try to pin this on me. I'm just trying to bring up a viewpoint prevalent across the community that deserves attention.

and its getting likes so clearly some support it :]

No need to make this personal good sirs and ma'ams

If you dont want it then you shouldnt make a thread, if other people want it so badly then they would make a thread, because this is the first thread about it then it obvously isnt what people want no matter how many people like your op.

[Technolust]

I personally think it would be a horrible idea but i see so many people arguing for it i thought it deserved a thread :x. So please don't try to pin this on me. I'm just trying to bring up a viewpoint prevalent across the community that deserves attention.

Then why the hell are you trying to make a petition?

Oh and it didn't deserve a thread.

[Murugan]

Stop feeding it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6DjLFX6m6I

[Gasher]

So if you are for making leveling optional + creating choice, please like this post and post your support :]

thank you

Zrsly. This is the most fun post in this forum for as long as I can remember. I had a wonderful time reading it.

/4tehlawlz

[Arkine]

As you level up a job you learn how to play it, when to use abilities and how to use them, you see the world as you visit new places to finish quests and join grinding groups, you face some monsters and get owned by them only to come back later when you're a higher level to settle the score, or farm drops and move to harder mobs as you progress in levels, get money, buy/make gear and at the end you reach end game and start re-equipping your character with endgame gear and figure out new builds for different situations and so on and so forth.

That is fun, and it takes time and effort to get the gratification you seek and that's how people get attached to MMOs, and that's how MMOs make their money.

Now starting at Lv50 lets say CNJ:

1-You'll have a bajillion spells that you're not entirely sure how to use.
2-You'll surely want to do some endgame and you'll definitely screw up since you're barely familiar with your class and role.
3-You cant start pimped out with endgame gear (whats the point of doing endgame if you did? it wont be "fun" forever) you'll start with rags and need to get money to buy new stuff but you wont know what to buy or how to get the money to buy it since you just started and are clueless.

I could keep going but I think I made my point.

Part of playing an MMO is starting as a weakling then slowly mastering your job on your way to the top. Starting a character at max level with all the crap you want handed out to you is ridiculous and every time SE nerfs or boosts a job people will just delete their characters and re-roll as whatever the current bandwagon job is, everybody will be mediocre at best.

I admit that I completely hate the battle system and most of what the UI has to offer (and really wish it was more like FFXI's) and haven't "really" played any battle classes since I got GLA50 god knows how long ago.

But I'm sure they're working on making it better.

I'm waiting for the new jobs and the process of getting my PLD then taking my time leveling it up to cap and finishing its quests and collecting its "artifact armor" etc.



Besides SE isn't going to make any money off you if they just handed you everything you want from the start and you had your fun for a week then quit, so yeah lol not gonna happen.