Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[raelgun]

Everquest 1? We are following the formula right?

Prob, no corpse running though back for gear or delvling through death.

The main thing I recall it will be using is the potential lock out system, you be surprised just how much FF14 mirrors WOW, heck even yoshi p attitude as well, you really should see how the developers of WOW/blizzard are like.

[Rendecrow]

you be surprised just how much FF14 mirrors WOW

Honestly this game is pretty much WoW but with a Final Fantasy skin, lol.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Not to mention all the harassment DPSers would suffer for not being "up to par" with their obnoxiously high expectations of how much DPS a player should be pulling.

Not to mention when its actually wrong, because of many factors. Most parsers only start when you are in or out of combat, some of them only record certain things. A lot of parsing is based on many factors and some only pull numbers from people near or close to you. Some have problems recording "Damage over time" effects and damage prevention effects. "Why arn't you doing X?"

It also doesn't record buffs and debuffs.

Parsers are silly, you should be able to "feel" how much damage or healing you can do. You don't need them to win.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Prob, no corpse running though back for gear or delvling through death.

The main thing I recall it will be using is the potential lock out system, you be surprised just how much FF14 mirrors WOW, heck even yoshi p attitude as well, you really should see how the developers of WOW/blizzard are like.

Except WoW copied Everquest, and Everquest changed over the years to be like WoW before WoW came out. Corpse Running was gone quite a long time ago.

A lot of FFXIV boss fights and strategies come straight from Everquest I and II. Not much from WoW, WoW raids and such are a joke compared.

[Kiroh]

Forum Rule Number 23 : Any conversation, given sufficient time, will become a debate over DPS meters.

Your number is to low. 23??? Pretty sure that should be higher. Like 43.

The rule is much older than you think it is.

[AlexionSkylark]

Not to mention when its actually wrong, because of many factors. Most parsers only start when you are in or out of combat, some of them only record certain things. A lot of parsing is based on many factors and some only pull numbers from people near or close to you. Some have problems recording "Damage over time" effects and damage prevention effects. "Why arn't you doing X?"

It also doesn't record buffs and debuffs.

Parsers are silly, you should be able to "feel" how much damage or healing you can do. You don't need them to win.

Here, sir, take my like

[Rendecrow]

Forum Rule Number 23 : Any conversation, given sufficient time, will become a debate over DPS meters.

Your number is to low. 23??? Pretty sure that should be higher. Like 43.

:P

[raelgun]

Except WoW copied Everquest, and Everquest changed over the years to be like WoW before WoW came out. Corpse Running was gone quite a long time ago.

A lot of FFXIV boss fights and strategies come straight from Everquest I and II. Not much from WoW, WoW raids and such are a joke compared.

Personally speaking, I have cleared T13 here, and I still find WOW raids harder then this.

If you are trying to compare normal mode raids in FF14 which you have not done btw to WOW LFR, then maybe you have some merit, but normal mode and hard mode WOW raiding is harder then FF14 raiding.

I also wonder since you refuse to do FF14 raiding have you done any WOW raiding at all or are you just full of hot air again.

[Purrfectstorm]

While what you wrote took a moment to understand, you missed the OP's point.

People were calling him an elitist. So he decided to more or less 'embrace' it. He doesn't really think he's 'elitist' ....but he also doesn't think MANY of the players being called such are actually elitist/behaving in such a way. His post was explaining how people get tired of constantly over-working on content to 'help' others only to have the very people they are trying to 'help' (stranger or otherwise), start name calling, or thinking that those who HAVE the experience are somehow in the wrong for not basically carrying the group or showing more patience than a saint.

Basically, it doesn't matter if you beat T13....if people know you've beaten Levi EX 100 times, they expect somehow that you, and you alone will be the sole reason they get their first clear. Or expect you to drop everything to 'help' them. Or start blaming you for not 'saving it' when the crap hits the fan and that happened because they drowned as soon as the ledges dropped. And many people who expect 'experienced in a specific battle' people to 'carry' them will then start using namecalling/shaming...specifically the word 'elitist' to basically shame them into helping.

A lot of people in this thread really get it. My thanks to those of you for being patient enough to explain it to others.

It's a bit of an inside joke. OP is just embracing the elitist title given after some posts made in the past. For example:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Expectations)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Life-Lessons)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...er-iLevel-Gear

Unfortunately, or perhaps tellingly, the ones not aware of this just latch on to the word "elitist" and then things spiral out from there.

Thanks for understanding this! Also, I thought the word "elitist" made a good hook. I'm a better writer than I am a player

On a side note the OP is now in another post talking about how he bought his Titan EX clear... Kind of really adds a new perspective to the post when reading it. Anyways you guys have a good day. Time to go home and play dem gamessss.

Thanks for quoting me out of context! I said in that same post that I learned that buying runs would not make me a good player and that I regretted ever buying my win. I also said I performed perfectly in my "carry" and that I just got frustrated because I couldn't find other good players. Taking the time to find like-minded and like-skilled players has made a bigger long-term difference.

[Izsha]

Wrong, it tells you when things hit you. It tells you whats doing more damage to you, it tells you how much damage your rotation produces, it tells you overall healing output (in many games!)

Knowing how much damage is being done to you in fights isn't an advantage? Knowing when stuff hits you (because your pulling from a script! and reading packets!) isn't an advantage?

Sniffing the packets of other players isn't wrong to you?

It is a huge advantage, quit covering your eyes please.

Its not telling you anything your chat log can't tell you or is not already displayed on the screen. And you aren't sniffing other players packets. You aren't hacking other people's pcs. You are only seeing data sent to you. And the only data that you can get from parsers that you can't get from reading your own screen that I'm aware of is individual dot damage since it is lumped together into a single # on screen (same deal with regeneration effects).

How much a monster hits you for? Really? It pops up in bold letters on screen and in chat. When my coil group wipes and we are at all confused, we very, very frequently review chat log to see what damage was dealt to whom and the timestamps with it to figure out what killed us.

Why the tank die? "Oh check at 8:22 guys, bahamut scored a crit auto attack between flare breaths and the adlo effect was listed after so the adlo was just late and an unlucky crit nail in the coffin" Mystery solved! All from you handy dandy chat log. True story. We did this ALL the time during progression.

The only advantage is if it does something beyond just recording log data (using incoming data to trigger a sound to call out moves automagically or other capabilities). The numbers themselves give you zero information not already available except for th aforementioned separation if dots and regeneration effects. Bare bones parsers are just glorified chat log recorders that break the ToS by poking at SE'S property (their files).