It's time to reevaluate the idea of adding a PLEX/Chronoscroll-like system to FFXIV

[Lamentations]

I think it'd be a great addition to the game. Would definitely help combat RMT.

No it will not help combat RMT, they will find a way around it, or expoit it.

The only two games I have played where RMT are well controlled are pure PVP games such as World of Tanks and World of Warplanes, if an RMT pops an add on a battlemap instance in those games he'll get one shot at it before tank or aircraft cannons rip him apart.

And it will be his "own team" who do so.

Wargaming not only doesn't punish players for doing so, but I have "personally" seen their "own development" team ingame "help" kill these RMT's.

This game isn't pure PVP, it would not control them here and just give them more business opportunities.

[Zohnax]

Actually, more people who just undercut for the sake of undercutting is a bad thing. Half the incentive of being a crafter/gatherer is making some profit, not reselling an HQ item for less than the total cost of materials. This has everything to do with people wanting instant-gratification and then they'll whine about the next thing they actually have to put forth some effort/time in an MMO to obtain. Taking from someone else for yourself does not create anything. Housing had plenty of notice, and plenty of time for people to save up for the doubled estates several months ago, but they didn't and/or knowing the popularity of housing, didn't camp a house and buy it asap. Who's fault is that? You're not entitled to a house, and hundreds of thousands certainly had the opportunity though. It also does not matter if someone wants a raid drop just for Vanity, that doesn't negate the value of the item's potential use. Stop demanding and start earning.

[Intaki]

Housing had plenty of notice, and plenty of time for people to save up for the doubled estates several months ago, but they didn't and/or knowing the popularity of housing, didn't camp a house and buy it asap. Who's fault is that? You're not entitled to a house, and hundreds of thousands certainly had the opportunity though.

How much notice did players who weren't even playing the game yet get about housing? The housing situation is entirely SE's fault, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just some special snowflake desperate to try and keep their special thing for themselves.

Also, I'm pretty sure there aren't more than 20-30 thousand houses on every server combined, so I don't know where you're getting "hundreds of thousands".

And as someone who pays real money (you know that thing your parents sometimes take out of their wallets), I kinda think I am, in fact, entitled to have access to every feature the game has to offer. Features developed with the money I have paid the company.

[Zohnax]

How much notice did players who weren't even playing the game yet get about housing? The housing situation is entirely SE's fault, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just some special snowflake desperate to try and keep their special thing for themselves.

There's that ignorant assumption again.

Also, I'm pretty sure there aren't more than 20-30 thousand houses on every server combined, so I don't know where you're getting "hundreds of thousands".

Clearly, there aren't thousands of houses, so what else in that paragraph might I have been talking about? Oh, right, players.

And as someone who pays real money (you know that thing your parents sometimes take out of their wallets), I kinda think I am, in fact, entitled to have access to every feature the game has to offer. Features developed with the money I have paid the company.

The ignorant, rude comments from someone who can barely follow my post in the first place continues. Don't post if all you're going to do is sling insults and attempt to condescend to others under some baseless assumptions. Also, no, you're not entitled to all content. You're entitled to the opportunity, but if you missed the opportunity or don't seize it, oh well. Again, that's not the developers fault for the passage of time and their supply for the data space they have available on their servers allotted for housing being filled. I didn't get to accomplish everything I wanted to in 1.0, but that's just because I wasn't playing it sooner. It's not the developers faults.

[Bishop81]

OK, cutting to the chase, I'm really neutral with regards to such system.

Cons -
Allows RL money to influence the game (even more). That said, we already have the sales of minions, dyes and mounts. RL rich people are already having a "better time" than the rest of us. What's one more drop of gasoline on the raging inferno?

Pros -
Poor people, who have too much time and are good at making gil, can play for "free" I suppose.
Face it, people are going to buy gil, one way or another. Might as well have them benefit SE and other players while doing so - rather than funding spamming RMTers.

[Zephyranthes]

No. I've played Tera with this system and I'd rather have a full subscription model. The economy completely changed with the introduction of subscription extending items in-game.

[Black-Forest]

All of the people screaming "No! This is pay to win and pay to win is of the devil!" - It's a kneejerk reaction to something no one really has any firm "evidence" of what this would actually do to the game's economy. Speculate all you want - either side of the argument - but anything at this point is purely that, speculation. Wildstar and Tera both had different target audiences and different styles than FFXIV. WoW is the real test for the genre.

Honestly, I don't think anyone in this thread has really expressed a "middle ground" opinion here, so I'll go ahead and do so. This topic was dead for God only knows how many months - let it rest for a few more. It won't kill anyone to wait 6 months. FFXIV is booming right now! We're in a great place for subs and activity, and Heavensward is coming soon. Anyone who needs ToS-legal RMT right now should probably consider that they would be part of the potential problem, not the benefits.

WoW is the closest thing to FFXIV out there. Let's wait and see what their PLEX-like system accomplishes, how it effects the game's economy, and then come back and have a more educated discussion that doesn't need to devolve into childish slap-fights and quote wars that accomplish nothing other than to reveal their contributors' immaturity.

[Dererk]

You know people keep saying the word poor people what the heck dose this mean. This is a pay to play game if your willing to pay the sub tour not really poor.

Use better wording people this system would be just bad period.

[StrejdaTom]

No, please no.

[Bauxite]

If you think yoshi and the gang aren't already watching this issue like hawks you're crazy. It's the new big thing for MMOs to do, and dismissing it out of hand as a developer would be absurd. Yoshi's answer from long ago probably still holds true, it's something they're going to consider and decide on when it comes to that point. No one knows how this is going to pan out in an mmo that's already stable. archeage, wildstar, and tera are the only games even comparable to what FFXIV is, and all of them had massive problems and much smaller populations than FFXIV. Waiting to see what happens with wow is prudent and a very good idea.