Thread: PVP and patch 2.5

I'm really excited about the new Mode,
but i80 cap???
That is beyond silly. Play game for pvp gear thats no good in pvp.
awesome.

I am pleasantly surprised about the changes.

Also, the i80 cap is a good thing, it makes pvp balanced instead of like the old wolves den where you couldn't even dent another player that had higher moral. PvP should be about co-ordination, skill, and strategy, not who's most geared. Plus the i80 cap lets us mix and match more pieces to tune our builds.

Originally Posted by Logo

I'm really excited about the new Mode,
but i80 cap???
That is beyond silly. Play game for pvp gear thats no good in pvp.
awesome.

I've said this repeatably: Depending on which class you are and which stats you want, many i100 and i110 PvP pieces are BiS because of how Morale boost and ilevelsync work.

Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

i110 Morale gear is BiS for everyone unless you have access to i130 gear that doesn't have accuracy on it. Gear doesn't sync down, it just has caps on the secondaries. With high enough raw stats you will have 2 capped secondaries on a piece instead of the usual capped+uncapped.

Morale gear in general is almost always better because 90% of it has no accuracy or parry.

This is completely wrong.
The i110 PVP gear does sync like everything else.

BIS for Frontlines = any item over i80 or higher ( or i70 pvp gear) with your 2 favored secondary stats (excluding ACC).

For instance, I am a DRG, i want every piece to be Crit and Det.
If I put on a few pieces of i110 in Frontlines, I lose about 100 Crit and 70 Det, compared to my peices that all have Det and Crit.
thats a huge difference.

So unless your lucky enough to get a Wolves Den match,
most of the gear has no value except looks.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

I've said this repeatably: Depending on which class you are and which stats you want, many i100 and i110 PvP pieces are BiS because of how Morale boost and ilevelsync work.

Morale Boost only matters on the ilevel 70.

Originally Posted by Utsu

It seems really weird. Is it really supposed to work like that ?

What seems to occur is that Morale applies first and gives each stat a bonus equal to the difference between the stat cap of the item's base ilevel and its Morale boosted ilevel. The Rank 40 i100 gear has +10 Morale meaning that the gear boosts to i110 in pvp areas. i100 Body and Leg pieces stat caps for secondaries are +38 for most secondaries and +27 for Determination and i130's stat caps for those slots are +41 most/+29 Det. This is a difference of +3 most/+2 Det. The i110 Lionsmane Cuirass has +26 Crit/+27 Det which the Morale boosts to +29 Crit/+29 Det.

ilevelsync caps the stat bonuses granted to that of the assigned ilevel. i80's stat caps for Body and Leg pieces are +30 most/+21 Det. Since the boosted Lionsmane Cuirass is +29 Crit/+29 Det since crit is less than +30 it is untouched but Det is capped to +21.

Do you have an interesting thread talking about that mechanic/the theorycrafting of Frontlines BiS ?

Thanks.

This is a very outdated thread that talks about it, but I intend to put up a 2.5 "twinking" thread once the patch goes live and we know the stats of the new gear.

Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

ilevelsync caps the stat bonuses granted to that of the assigned ilevel. i80's stat caps for Body and Leg pieces are +30 most/+21 Det. Since the boosted Lionsmane Cuirass is +29 Crit/+29 Det since crit is less than +30 it is untouched but Det is capped to +21.

Why the Crit is untouched when the Det on the Earrings of Fending in your first example is touched ?

Crit shouldn't be capped to 30 ?

Sorry, I really want to understand how it works exactly haha.