[Reminder] Classes Are Not Jobs [dev1033]

[AlexiaKidd]

Alexis, While a Conjurer Monk would be difficult to pull off its possible the problem is your mixing a pure Magic Class with a Physical Job.

Though in my system as I tried to describe it, when a Job is attached to a class, certain abilities for that class itself change based on the job. In the Case of Monk being laid over any class you could have it so that Skill 1 (Spirit Dart in the case of Conj) Augments and becomes a new ability as long as the Job Is in place. For Monk this ability could be anything from Chi-Blast (Representing the oldschool Monk Ability and using Vit/Mnd for its damage instead of just magical stats) to Hefty Swing (A basic physical attack that deals damage based on Vit not Strength)

As well The Skill 2 (In the case on Conjurer Tranquility) Turns into the Job's specialised "Ohshitbutton" skill. For the case of Monk this could be "Hundred Fist" which fills your Stamina Bar up to 100% and causes your character to automatically attack with a basic physical attack repeatedly at a fast rate with a x1.5% bonus to damage for the duration that it takes stamina to return to 0.

Or they could stop all this weapon=class bull crap make the CON, THM, PUG and so on jobs and leave weapons for weapon skill's and that solves everything. They can still do there talent tree's or whatever I don't care about that, I just don't want to be tied to the same weapon forever on my MRD ><

[gifthorse]

Or they could stop all this weapon=class bull crap make the CON, THM, PUG and so on jobs and leave weapons for weapon skill's and that solves everything. They can still do there talent tree's or whatever I don't care about that, I just don't want to be tied to the same weapon forever on my MRD ><

I totally see what you're trying to say with your CON=MNK thing. And i think a staff-wielding combatant should be possible. But you have to understand that the staves and cudgels in FFXIV are magical vessels. When they introduce a new weapon to specialise in, such as a fighting staff or mace, then you will be able to make a DD staff-wielder.

At the moment, the armory system is limited by the constraints of content. We don't have every weapon under the sun in the system at the moment, so of course you are limited in your choices.

For the meantime, a lance is a good alternative.


Anyways, I think you do have an interesting point and I've thought of some ways around this. Earlier in this thread, if you bothered to read it, we talked about the introduction of templates (as one poster called it).

The idea behind the template is that you can specialise within the armory system to be the job you want. In this way, you could attach a template name to your character and inherit whatever buffs and debuffs come with that template. For example, if you wanted to me a Dark Knight, you could attach the DRK template to your character and inherit more Attack, Less accuracy, and a boost to relevant THM and CONJ spells.

Under this template (job) system, you aren't limited to a weapon (class). You can freely switch between all the weapons (classes) you've ranked up. So you can use your Maruder's axe or your Pugilist's fists and still maintain your role as a Dark Knight.

[Cairdeas]

I totally see what you're trying to say with your CON=MNK thing. And i think a staff-wielding combatant should be possible. But you have to understand that the staves and cudgels in FFXIV are magical vessels. When they introduce a new weapon to specialise in, such as a fighting staff or mace, then you will be able to make a DD staff-wielder.

At the moment, the armory system is limited by the constraints of content. We don't have every weapon under the sun in the system at the moment, so of course you are limited in your choices.

For the meantime, a lance is a good alternative.


Anyways, I think you do have an interesting point and I've thought of some ways around this. Earlier in this thread, if you bothered to read it, we talked about the introduction of templates (as one poster called it).

The idea behind the template is that you can specialise within the armory system to be the job you want. In this way, you could attach a template name to your character and inherit whatever buffs and debuffs come with that template. For example, if you wanted to me a Dark Knight, you could attach the DRK template to your character and inherit more Attack, Less accuracy, and a boost to relevant THM and CONJ spells.

Under this template (job) system, you aren't limited to a weapon (class). You can freely switch between all the weapons (classes) you've ranked up. So you can use your Maruder's axe or your Pugilist's fists and still maintain your role as a Dark Knight.

Probably just a better way to say what I've been saying, Just include the Individual Skill Augments

Things like

If Job = Monk
Simian Thrash -> Asuran Fist : Earns 1 extra physical hit and increase the damage per hit by a percentage.

If Job = Ninja
Fire = Katon : Deals slightly lower elemental damage but causes the next spell in the elemental wheel to deal double damage.

If Job = White Mage
Secondary Skill = Benediction

etc.