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  1. #791
    Player
    sackm's Avatar
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    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Never really had mp issues before so this doesnt change anything. Being able to Ruin 2 more isnt going to magically allow me to match the BLMs doing 550 dps in T10 (personal high is 500ish). pathetic change imo
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  2. #792
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    Shizuna's Avatar
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    Character
    Alethea Wyste
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardan View Post
    "The MP cost of the arcanist actions Ruin and Ruin II has been reduced."

    Ripped straight from the 2.51 patch notes.
    I guess that's something... but come on, really, SE?! That's it?! What about a higher base piety and a shorter enkindle and anything else that would help a bit? =_=
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  3. #793
    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Character
    Sariena Adeline
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    This will get fun rather quickly lol
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  4. #794
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    Character
    Raveen Raines
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I mean I was hoping for a little more but depending on how much the MP cost was reduced this could significantly reduce our MP consumption. I was a little hopeful for some minor potency increases. BLM AoE blows SMN AoE out of the water mostly because bane is capped at 3 additional targets, and a lot of adds are burst down meaning they don't get the full duration of DoTs. SMN single target was already around even with BLM before this and as we probably won't need to energy drain as much that'll be a single target DPS increase.
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  5. #795
    Player
    sackm's Avatar
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    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    SMN is definitely not on par with BLM when it comes to single target, don't you remember T8? Even without mp issues there was no way I was going to match a turret BLM in that fight
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  6. #796
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    Character
    Brian Jones
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    This will get fun rather quickly lol
    Hahaha. I can't wait till everyone wakes up.
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  7. #797
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    Viviza's Avatar
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    Character
    Viviza Viza
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuna View Post
    I guess that's something... but come on, really, SE?! That's it?! What about a higher base piety and a shorter enkindle and anything else that would help a bit? =_=
    Step 1. Collectively argue that MP consumption is a major problem for summoners
    Step 2. SE announces reduced cost on certain summoner spells
    Step 3. Complain a lot about the announcement
    Step 4. ???
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  8. #798
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Character
    Akio Shikimazu
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Well for me at least, it'll make me feel more comfortable going back to my Ruin-->Ruinra combination. Felt like I had to cut it off due to mp issues.
    It's still leaving a bad taste that they just don't think it through - at least they are not giving the impression to do so. I still have the feeling they just hate the class with passion.

    We'll see how much the cost reduction actually is, my bet's on 25% but that's already generous.
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  9. #799
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    Character
    Kori Fleming
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    If Ruin I & II's mana cost is lowered enough to allow for more Festers, the buff could actually help a lot. Guess we'll only know when the patch goes live and people start raiding. :V
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  10. #800
    Player
    sackm's Avatar
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    Character
    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I already used ZERO energy drains before this (ok, maybe 1-2 in T10). Outside of that, I never use it.
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