So BLM as AOE covered, MNK has single target... What does SMN bring?

[Truedragon]

Every job complains about their job being outclassed.

I just tried out my sub drg on some current content and the damage was sick and so easy to play aswell. Is this what you want?
Remember the Leviathan days? What happened to those SMNs who mass dotted everything in sight and then proclaimed to be king of dps while monks saw their greased lightning dropping during every dive?

Was that "fair" aswell?

[Sleigh]

I just tried out my sub drg on some current content and the damage was sick and so easy to play aswell. Is this what you want?

DRG's pretty nicely balanced with MNK and NIN now so ... yes, that is what I want.

[Odowla]

SMN Bring's someone to scream for a Ballad 2 minutes into a fight.

All of their Utility it brought by someone who's already in the party, and their damage is outclassed.

I have outlined a lot of problems starting from this post in the thread Sleigh mentioned.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2650186

[JonnyBigBoss]

It's a ranged DPS with some support. It's pretty good.

[Maero]

And contagion, do not forget contagion ....
Summoner dps is still good, those that say otherwise are not playing the class to it's full potential.
Not saying it does more damage then blm but still very much viable
Another reason i also go as smn for ST is if healers are down or occupied i help out to rez players

[Akiza]

On end game raid content the Summoner doesn't offer anything that other dps jobs excel at.

[Nux]

On end game raid content the Summoner doesn't offer anything that other dps jobs excel at.

The legend has spoken

[Numenor1379]

They just need to increase the MP regen of Aetherflow (perhaps boost the initial amount and then give a small regen so long as you've got stacks available or something) and most of SMNs problems would be gone from a mechanics perspective. Gear... yeah, as Harold said either scale pets to SSPD or give them a new set. Though, given the number of sets we've got already adding another to the drop matrix would just suck. =/

[HaroldSaxon]

They just need to increase the MP regen of Aetherflow (perhaps boost the initial amount and then give a small regen so long as you've got stacks available or something) and most of SMNs problems would be gone from a mechanics perspective. Gear... yeah, as Harold said either scale pets to SSPD or give them a new set. Though, given the number of sets we've got already adding another to the drop matrix would just suck. =/

I don't think adding another gearset will change much if i'm honest, its already bad as it is and they already have to do something in the expansion about it. Either more chests, a "re-roll" system, or a system where you won't get any loot for a class that isn't in your party, or a complete token based system.

[Dyvid]

I would vote to change Enhanced Pet Action from 20% Spell Speed to 10% mp restore over 8s.