Chocobo dyeing R&D Thread - Post your results here!

[MrsVolfield]

Do you have an image of the coeurl yellow?

[RakaMaimhov]

Yeah, i realize that, i've just been following this This document and according to the values that i'm now believing are pulled out of someone's behind, i should've landed just either shy off of Soot black or atleast near the color, but coeurl yellow? Cmon. ._.

They have the numbers backwards on that document. White's values are at the lowest end of the scale (0) and blacks values would be at the highest end of the scale. This is my own conclusion based on the wording on the fruit itself.

Valfruit, Ciedalaes Pineapple and Doman Plum all lighten (decrease) the saturation of the color, aka subtract from the total for that color value pushing it closer to 0.

Mamook Pear, O'Ghomoro Berries, Xephatol Apple all darken (increase) the saturation of the color, pushing the value closer to whatever the cap is (255 is assumed).

The color system is RGB (light) but the way it works is like pigments in that zero saturation of all colors equals white, where 100% saturation of all colors equals black. The rules are based off red, green, blue as primary colors with the tertiary colors cyan, magenta, and yellow, which is why there is an element of confusion in the document you referenced.

Most of us grew up mixing pigments, not light. So it's a little confusing when you subtract blue from pink and get yellow :3 (as an example).

[MomomiMomi]

They have the numbers backwards on that document. White's values are at the lowest end of the scale (0) and blacks values would be at the highest end of the scale. This is my own conclusion based on the wording on the fruit itself.

Valfruit, Ciedalaes Pineapple and Doman Plum all lighten (decrease) the saturation of the color, aka subtract from the total for that color value pushing it closer to 0.

This would be correct if that's all the fruits were doing. But it seems that what they actually do is lower one and raise the other two. Plums raise cyan (blue and green), valfruit raise magenta (red and blue) and pineapples raise yellow (green and red). White is still coming from raising all of the values as high as possible.

The "deepen" fruit raise one and lower the other two.

[RakaMaimhov]

This would be correct if that's all the fruits were doing. But it seems that what they actually do is lower one and raise the other two. Plums raise cyan (blue and green), valfruit raise magenta (red and blue) and pineapples raise yellow (green and red). White is still coming from raising all of the values as high as possible.

The "deepen" fruit raise one and lower the other two.

I have not personally observed this effect at all. I have only seen them take away color, not add it. I am coming up on another 6 hour period being finished, so perhaps I will be proven wrong if the chocobo comes out a color other than what is predicted.

By your own reasoning, this would make it impossible to get white, btw.

There are already verified snow white chocobos.

It is an unnecessary complication to believe that the fruits that "lighten" colors actually secretly darken others.

[Syrehn]

I have not personally observed this effect at all. I have only seen them take away color, not add it. I am coming up on another 6 hour period being finished, so perhaps I will be proven wrong if the chocobo comes out a color other than what is predicted.

By your own reasoning, this would make it impossible to get white, btw.

There are already verified snow white chocobos.

No, I used that reasoning to obtain my Snow White chocobo. When you use a fruit to deepen or lighten a colour it's increasing/decreasing the other 2 colour hues behind the scenes.