Desynth Issue

[Mysteran]

Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
* If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.

As others have said, this is extremely misleading. "in certain instances" implies there are likely to be defined instances when it would lower. Such as the line following it stating the 300 point max.

It isn't in "certain instances" it's "randomly".

[Moglin]

Greetings,

In regards to the specific point about losing Desynthesis skill, the system is indeed working as intended. When you are skilling up a specific craft another craft's skill may randomly lose Desynthesis skill points.

Here is a direct quote from the patch notes: (I see that Maluber also posted this information, but lets make it official.)


Good luck to everyone desynthesizing, I know I need it! :P

Yoshi seems to disagree, as per his interview here with 4Gamer. Specifically..

■ Since it's possible to accidently desynthesize with a class you don't want to level and end up lowering something else...

That won't be happening until you're at the 300 point cap, so for now you can feel free to raise what you like.

[mbncd]

I can't help thinking that maybe there's been some sort of miscommunication/misunderstanding somewhere between players and mods or mods and devs, that what we're talking about is a different thing to what they're talking about. That Yoshi comment quote kinda cements that idea. I really don't think it's working as intended UNTIL you get to (or even near) the 300 cap...

[mbncd]

And can someone please move this thread to the right area? It's bugging me that the people this relates to the most won't see it unless they check the dev tracker... >_>

[ErnestoGiovanni]

Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
* If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.

The way it is written in no way implies that the instance listed encompasses all possible instances...

Thank you, I have dyspraxia, which comes with a reading disorder, and i completely understood it and was more confused as to why others didn't. Turns out my dyspraxia wasn't turned on at the moment :P. Besides the patch notes there are the tool tips that are un game, i believe they mention something like this.

[Grefia]

ErnestoGiovanni, read what Yoshi had to say.. This is not working as intended. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...her-2.3-topics

[Umero]

■ Ah, I figured as much (laugh). So, for item desynthesis, we know the combined maximum is 300 points, and once reaching the max, increasing the skill of one craft will lower the skill of another. Is it possible to, say, lock the skill level of a specific craft to allow you to adjust another?

There's no deliberate locking system but.... I can only ask people try out different ideas.

■ Since it's possible to accidently desynthesize with a class you don't want to level and end up lowering something else...

That won't be happening until you're at the 300 point cap, so for now you can feel free to raise what you like.

So, this is definitely a bug that when experiencing skill points loss before 300 points.

[IveraIvalice]

I agree if this is working as intended it needs to be changed and the wording should have been clearer kuz it's very misleading.

[Themis]

The way I understand the patch note info:

You gain skill points for desynthing, that much is common knowledge.

Whilst working on a particular skill, you may also experience other skills going down. This is the random loss you are seeing.

When the combined total is at 300, then you will experience other skills going down.

The difference lies in the may and the will parts. One implies a chance of seeing the downlevel, the other implies a guarantee of seeing the downleve.

[Suirieko]

Everyone is claiming that the whole skill point loss thing is misleading..

Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.

It's pretty clear that when you skill up, there's a chance that you will lose skill points (which is what.. tiny amount?).

and..

[quot]* If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered. [/quote]

Makes sense since you can only have 300 skill points overall.


So... Where's the misleading info?