Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[Ooshima]

except that now (2.2-2.3) it's not "the superboss of a current patch", so yeah maybe it should require less than 50 wipes. (Maybe the same time as a brandly new Ex primal ?)

That's why you have 20% echo coming 2.3. That should ease a lot of things, such as DPS requirements on conflags, snake adds and of course, killing DKs faster meant less chances of DK killing the stunned member if your PLD screwed up his stun-lock and overall, lesser chance to hit enrage timer even in entry requirement (i82) gear. The only thing left to deal with is Twister and Divebombs, which i think it is still reasonable given that it still drops decent SCoB entry level gear and weapon. Without Twister and DBs, it's just another dungeon boss alike fight.

[Kuwagami]

That's why you have 20% echo coming 2.3. That should ease a lot of things, such as DPS requirements on conflags, snake adds and of course, killing DKs faster meant less chances of DK killing the stunned member if your PLD screwed up his stun-lock and overall, lesser chance to hit enrage timer even in entry requirement (i82) gear. The only thing left to deal with is Twister and Divebombs, which i think it is still reasonable given that it still drops decent SCoB entry level gear and weapon. Without Twister and DBs, it's just another dungeon boss alike fight.

sure and I totally agree. Dives and twisters together do not need more than roughly 20 attempts to know fully. That's a really good way to nerf a superboss while maintaining a sense of difficulty

[Lillia]

It's still one of the hardest turns and I feel it should rightfully be hard considering it's before 6-9, it readies you for upper coils is just how I see it. Some of the new turns may seem easier for certain players but I'm sure the difficulty goes right back up in the turns near the end of second coil.

If shes focus target'd it's super easy to predict dives (you also see a green mark over you and hear a ding sound) and you just insta move out of the ditch... I don't consider this mechanic hard personally seeing it's more of a reaction thing but... I can understand there are different levels of playing. (I find it much harder to keep my characters toe from the edge flames than to avoid her dives myself though. >.<)

I do still feel like she readies you pretty well for higher turns though considering there is no echo for those at all and possibly smaller room for mistakes inside of them as well. For this reason I can understand why T5 is still allowed to be hard.

[RakaMaimhov]

OP:

Wow. bosses should not just be "harder". Adding HP to bosses spamming random/scripted mechanics is boring.

Allowing for party setups to vary and party size to vary will inevitably lead to 8 ninjas and 1 healer so no.

Half your ideas are why FFXI sucked.

I agree with you this game and its system are not perfect, but the main page of an 87 page post shouldn't dictate the future of this game.

[Makado]

I think its great that the bosses retain their difficulty. You get some leeway with the Echo, for a mistake here or there, but no they should not be won in a few attempts. Why take away a new players sense of accomplishment of beating that hard boss? Why diminish all the work those who originally cleared it did?

If people want to give up and stop playing or whatever because there are instant death mechanics to fights and things you actually need to think about and form a strategy for then I'm sorry MMORPGs are not for you. You should have to think and problem solve whether a mechanic is blatantly scripted or something you just need time to figure out and learn. Its part of these games and part of the challenge. Otherwise what's the point in playing?

[Dashuto]

Call me a necromancer.

We have tons of people running around in i110 now whose stats don't really matter.

Because instant wipes!

[Colt47]

Call me a necromancer.

We have tons of people running around in i110 now whose stats don't really matter.

Because instant wipes!

Despite the complaints about hunts, at least they are making the game more enjoyable for a larger audience by closing gear gaps. As far as end game goes, this has been something that I've known was going to be a problem the second World of Warcraft introduced DPS checks back in the olden days. They aren't necessary and force the pattern memorization over intelligent dodging.

[Zumi]

Call me a necromancer.

We have tons of people running around in i110 now whose stats don't really matter.

Because instant wipes!

It is good that some skill is required to beat stuff and that you can't just overgear a boss.

[Dashuto]

It is good that some skill is required to beat stuff and that you can't just overgear a boss.

It'd be nice to beat a boss with an 8 man team, except just 1 person making a tiny mistake has the other 7 of us trying from the very start again.

Also the point of my post was that no matter how much we progress, or gear, you cannot make up for even 1 person who makes a small mistake.

In this situation: Why does our gear matter? Because it almost doesn't. This isn't very good design aside from the main point.

[Volcano]

It'd be nice to beat a boss with an 8 man team, except just 1 person making a tiny mistake has the other 7 of us trying from the very start again.

Also the point of my post was that no matter how much we progress, or gear, you cannot make up for even 1 person who makes a small mistake.

In this situation: Why does our gear matter? Because it almost doesn't. This isn't very good design aside from the main point.

I agree to an extent, it's quite annoying having to pay for the mistakes of 1 person, like just getting out of a Ifirit EX mode fight i was that the other healer i was with not moving to the proper side, eating my seering winds and not healing tanks, causing us to wipe, several times, then rage quiting because she couldn't admit her mistakes, 1 person causing an entire group to fail, is not very motivating in design, and then when we replaced her with a none idiot healer we won the fight.

I'm am not really liking how 1 can mess up an entire fight.