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    Prototype909's Avatar
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    Haken Browning
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    Midgardsormr
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    I think a lot of people are taking the Blog Post out of context or just ignoring the main point.

    He's basically arguing that

    A) Hardcore players tend to find mechanics driven fights boring (Arguably true)
    B) Casual players tend to be incapable of coping with them (Likely)
    C) This disconnect leads to people being booted/inability to find a static (100% true)

    Nobody wants to be held back by the one guy who doesn't know what he's doing. One person can ruin your entire raid with a screw-up. That's why there's 0 tolerance for mistakes and every PF for Coil or Extreme Primal level content above T5 or so is "Make 3 mistakes and you're gone".

    I don't think mechanics should be removed, but at the same time it's basically more of a memory game with 8 people than an actual game where you're reacting to things. FF XI was largely a tank and spank game, but the encounters still felt more "skill" dependent than in this game because you could literally carry encounters by yourself even if other members (Who you would just have to pick-up off the street in many cases) were under-performing.

    In FF XIV you can do everything right but if someone else whose effort and survival is completely independent from your own dies you're effectively headed towards a wipe in probably over half of end-game encounters. If they continue to die your only solution is to just be stuck there and frustrated until they can learn or to boot them and find someone who can perform. You're telling me that's not a toxic mindset to be promoting?
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    Promyvion Vahzl
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    Alchemist Lv 64
    TLDR: The FFXIers can't handle fast paced combat that requires you to actually pay attention, react quickly, and *gasp* even be there at your computer.
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    Rose Vilehart
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    TLDR: The FFXIers can't handle fast paced combat that requires you to actually pay attention, react quickly, and *gasp* even be there at your computer.
    I like you.
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    Sil Ellessa
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    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    TLDR: The FFXIers can't handle fast paced combat that requires you to actually pay attention, react quickly, and *gasp* even be there at your computer.
    Yeah, you really should have read it, because that wasn't the point at all.
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    much text. Cannot read.
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
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    If SE reads this please don't listen to this guy.

    From a population perspective, the causal players make up maybe about 60% of the population, the mainstream players perhaps another 30% or so (might not be exact). Now, the true hardcore players probably take up less than 10% of the population.
    Source Please!!!

    listen to this guy and this game which is consider a success will go south quick.

    This forums makes up a small minority of the entire game population, and even within this minority the amount of complain regarding current end game is small.

    to me it sounds like to need to get on a FC/Linkshell/Make friends.
    progression will happen with close groups/statics not with DF/PF raids (though PF can get u far if lucky).
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    Xairos Karalis
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    What I would want in this game is a long form dungeon. I think all this 45min-60 min runs (if there is anyone out there that even takes that much time) is speed-run-izing this game's community. Everyone is in such a rush to spend their time playing this game. We need more long-form runs. 1hr 30mins for like one or two runs. But that opens a bag for rewards being worth it and such.
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    Rami Redeye
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    wait...I said this was a good read. But did anyone actually read this?
    The OP takes there own opinion and makes it fact.
    Feels that certain ideas from the dev team are bad, but provides proven bad ideas.
    The OP hates the current mechanics of boss battles, but provides zero solutions. My understanding they want more Tank and Spank and no dps races?
    wants to run 4 man dungeons with 2-99 players?
    and thinks blayflox NM was hard...."Among these dungeons, you have ones like Brayflox, whose difficulty took many first-timers by surprise"..really?
    Thats so sawft
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopKatt View Post
    The OP takes there own opinion and makes it fact.
    He experienced it thus it is a fact based on his opinion. Weather you would like to agree or disagree it does happen and is not some made up myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    He experienced it thus it is a fact based on his opinion. Weather you would like to agree or disagree it does happen and is not some made up myth.
    Saying people prefer dungeons pre lvl 50 is a generalization. The op dresses it up like a fact.
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