Song Lyrics in FFXIV: Compilation, Discussion, and Interpretation

[Morningstar1337]

Did me and Cyril bring up the possibility of tempered Goblin children implied by certain lyrics in Locus in this thread?

[CyrilLucifer]

That was in the 3.2 thread.

It really sounds like Locus has a few lines that imply Alexander can temper.

[Theodric]

Did me and Cyril bring up the possibility of tempered Goblin children implied by certain lyrics in Locus in this thread?

There's also no cure to Tempering, if I recall correctly. Didn't the Scions imply in the early MSQ that they had to 'regrettably' put down those that were Tempered to prevent them summoning Primals? Since that would, ultimately, be all they would care to do in such a state?

I really hope they don't discover a cure because 'Tempering' has the potential to be an incredible bitter blow at some point if a firm ally of ours needs to be put down because they can't be saved and are no longer of a sound mind.

That might help dampen some of the plot armour surrounding the WoL too.

[Mysteltain]

What most interests me is how the song has directly referenced [3.2 Midas spoilers!]

Alexander's time bending capabilites

I mean, we've literally had this song in front of us all along and yet (as far as I'm aware) it never occurred to us. Then again, this song hasn't been the easiest to transcribe, so...

[Rocl]

The only "cure" to Tempering is the Primal releasing their hold, if what is said in the Coil storylines stays true.

[sciencebot]

I'm not especially good at this video business, so apologies, but I've rigged up a quick comparison of the Fiend fight audio vs. the Fiend orchestrion audio. There are additional differences in the rest of the chorus -- the recording cut out sooner than I'd have liked it to -- but there you go. As far as I can tell with a very inexperienced and unmusical ear, the chorus is the only difference between the two versions.

https://youtu.be/2y74wI8eelk

From what I can tell, the first chorus of Fiend is moved to the second for the Orchestrion version, and "Concede your mind unto the Fiend"(?) is moved to the first and changed to "Concede your place in history".

[Mysteltain]

There are definitely other differences beyond those, from some other Orchestrion videos I've seen. I don't have the Roll, myself, so I may need to shell out a bit of gil for it, but I'm getting a very "Through the Maelstrom" vibe about this, with two different versions of the song existing.

[FenHin]

For Heroes aka Thordan Theme, maybe the lyrics are some Heavensward theme translated to Ishgardian/ Dragontongue?

The song itself is an altered Heavensward with this order

Will unbending
Faith unending
Stone defending
Now our steel shall sing

Guide us, O mighty Fury
Guide us to victory!

To their trespass
We are Witness
Here to pass this
Final sentence

No forgiveness
No deliverance
Only Justice
Only Vengeance

repeat

Can someone translate the first sentence and see if it fits

[Fenral]

The more I listen to Fiend on my Orchestrion, the more convinced I become that the line is actually: "necessity is an invented mother." Could just be hearing what I want to hear, though.

[SmartAssassin]

I'm pretty sure that "Salt of the earth is salting your own fields;" is more like "Salting the earth is salting your own feelings." Also doesn't sound like earth, but i can't pinpoint what it is except that it has an s (hiss) ending. (Like "ash," but thats just a hypothesis)