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    Petition to add, "No cutscene skipping" to duty finder

    As many have been raging about since the game's release, the party finder just is not obvious or efficient enough for new players to use for serious storyline use.

    Here is an 8 month old example of this issue with over 450 replies. It is a serious issue that is still ongoing and has not yet been resolved.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._about_people/

    There needs to be an instant and simple notification for players when opening the Duty Finder directly from clicking on their story dungeon quest. Not at the start of the game in the tutorials either because this issue is mainly focused on the last two dungeons.

    This option will prevent:
    - experienced players from getting upset/annoyed in dungeons
    - new players having to skip storyline or having it ruined for them through rushing
    - having to watch storyline out of context at the inn
    - not enough players using the party finder to do this
    - threads like this from upset players
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    Its already an option in party finder.

    Also: duplicate topic of this.
    Also: petitions don't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Its already an option in party finder.

    Also: duplicate topic of this.
    Also: petitions don't work.
    And neither does the party finder. That is the whole point.
    I'm merely trying to help improve the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    And neither does the party finder. That is the whole point.
    Party finder doesn't work? Have you tried to form a party using the precondition of no cutscene skipping?

    The feature works. But only if you use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Party finder doesn't work? Have you tried to form a party using the precondition of no cutscene skipping?

    The feature works. But only if you use it.
    Of course it works in a technical sense, I don't believe you understood.
    I don't believe the party finder is obvious to new players. I definitely didn't know about it until after the whole mess at the end of the game.
    If the option was in the duty finder it would not only make it so players had to see that option, but it would also mean there were greater chances at getting in to a dungeon with the option.
    The amount of time it takes to get in to a dungeon using the party finder makes it basically worthless, due it to being so hidden away. I hope you get my point now.

    I will do everything that I can to make this an important issue. Even if all the people who don't care about story disagree. This option is not going to have any negative effects on your experience.
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    Last edited by Axiom; 05-15-2014 at 12:21 PM.

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    Then the solution would be to add a tutorial for Party Finder from the very beginning to the player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raestloz View Post
    Then the solution would be to add a tutorial for Party Finder from the very beginning to the player
    As I mentioned in this first post, the issue arises at the very end of the campaign. Players aren't going to remember that.
    Game developers need to consider the players' state of mind when the issue arises, instead of just throwing in any old solution the devs think will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axiom View Post
    As I mentioned in this first post, the issue arises at the very end of the campaign. Players aren't going to remember that.
    Game developers need to consider the players' state of mind when the issue arises, instead of just throwing in any old solution the devs think will work.
    I think the issue is that you're expecting DF players to behave on some arbitrary line. If a healer don't heal, by all means cook them for the devils, but if a healer wants to skip the cutscenes, ain't nothing is wrong with that. The only way to "solve" this issue is to get think alike players to band together, either via FC or via Party Finder.

    If you'd rather not go the tutorial, simply put warnings near the dungeon requirements text: "if you wish to view the cutscenes, please form a Party Finder to do so". or perhaps when you first unlock the dungeons, you get introduced to Party Finder, for the XIVth time if need be
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    As much as I agree that one shouldn't be forced to skip cutscenes, people also have the right to skip them if they chose. Instead of having unskippable cutscenes, about how having an option in Duty Finder to select either a) Story Mode Roulette (where people who wish to experience the story content get assigned to a party with like-minded people), or B) Farming Mode, to farm for tomes/do speed runs. I don't know if this would be do-able, or it may cause problems in Duty Finder with longer wait queues, I dunno. Just a compromise suggestion for everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by micropanther7 View Post
    As much as I agree that one shouldn't be forced to skip cutscenes, people also have the right to skip them if they chose. Instead of having unskippable cutscenes, about how having an option in Duty Finder to select either a) Story Mode Roulette (where people who wish to experience the story content get assigned to a party with like-minded people), or B) Farming Mode, to farm for tomes/do speed runs. I don't know if this would be do-able, or it may cause problems in Duty Finder with longer wait queues, I dunno. Just a compromise suggestion for everyone!
    Or they can just keep the cutscenes outside the dungeon content. A short panorama of the end boss just before fighting is fine, but long cutscenes just before a PUG dungeon\BCNM (avatar fight?) was a bad idea. This stemmed from the only "instanced" content in XI being BCNMs that everyone was a willing party to and that you couldn't speed run, and the long missions that everyone completed together. SE hasn't had to deal with this kind of repeatable dungeoning that all other modern mmo's have already gotten past. I expect we will see far fewer CS's as a part of the repeatable dungeons and SE will keep those as a part of the player's personal story.

    So in short - I'm not signing a petition to make my dungeon experience unnecessarily longer. There's only so many times any of us can stand to watch the same 5 minutes of story over and over... and over again.

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    If I wanted a Solo game, I wouldn't be playing an MMO
    If I wanted a cinematic experience, I'd go out to Regal.
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    Last edited by Souljacker; 05-16-2014 at 07:05 AM.

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