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  1. #2051
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    it isnt that we dont agree with his decissions, half of them are pretty good. its just that only about 10% of it is of any actual significance... not only right now, but from his posts wont be of any significance for quite some time.
    No significance to you, maybe. (I recognise that the subset of players who don't need convincing to play and pay until 2.0 might be small, also that the subset of NA players who actually want to know Yoshida's reasoning behind changing certain core concepts of the game might also be small, but I fall into both of them, and I've gotten a lot out of this post, even if I find myself thinking 'man, I hope this didn't delay the class adjustments post'. 2.0 is the game I'm eventually going to be playing, the game this game is eventually going to be, so any information about 2.0 is welcome to me.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    So what is this post and why is it important....? Confused, thought maybe he was rolling out class changes. Last I checked, Final Fantasy was about Paladins and Black Mages, not Botanists. Don't get me wrong, I like the Gatherers/Crafting every now and again, but I really don't care about them given the other massive changes needed. Oh well...
    Last I checked, Final Fantasy was made for Japanese and Western demographics.

    This is a big deal for JP's, and our primary concerns that aren't retarded were already answered in the LIVE letter. Gatherer info was, according to JP's, not enough to appease them.

    I'm sorry that you don't give a damn, but 150 likes at 4~7am JST tell you that to some people this is a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croy View Post
    He actually mentioned the reason for that. He wants to overhaul the remaining 2 crafter classes and food first before he overhauls all the gathering stuff. Furthermore lots of the changes can't be implemented till 2.0 because of the server change and the current server not sufficient enough to make the changes. He is giving people an update to make people feel its not forgotten, but also tell people where it is exactly on the totem poll of things to do. He is speaking more to the Japanese audience then to us as this has been a big issue on those boards. Think you guys are just getting impatient because you wanted to see the combat overhaul update today lol.
    the battle update was officially announced to be yesterday, thats why people are being impatient.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  4. #2054
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    So what is this post and why is it important....? Confused, thought maybe he was rolling out class changes. Last I checked, Final Fantasy was about Paladins and Black Mages, not Botanists. Don't get me wrong, I like the Gatherers/Crafting every now and again, but I really don't care about them given the other massive changes needed. Oh well...
    This post is supposed to be about the future of gathering and why Yoshida has seen fit to disregard it as having any importance(fromt he jp point of view that I happen to agree with). This is an MMO as much as it is a Final Fantasy, you cannot get a large number of people hooked on one aspect of the game and then tell them they are not worth acknowledging.
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  5. #2055
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    wow people, this post is to address to the jap's thread about DoL/H, not the letter you have been waiting for. READ before you comment!
    Please use JP or JPN
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  6. #2056
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Last I checked, Final Fantasy was made for Japanese and Western demographics.

    This is a big deal for JP's, and our primary concerns that aren't retarded were already answered in the LIVE letter. Gatherer info was, according to JP's, not enough to appease them.

    I'm sorry that you don't give a damn, but 150 likes at 4~7am JST tell you that to some people this is a big deal.
    yeah after about 3 quarters through i started getting the idea this is mostly meant for the JP side.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  7. #2057
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croy View Post
    Isn't the stuff on tp and mp usage, and EXP chain new? (I know its small compared to the rest of the post). Furthermore he isn't done translating it, it looks like.
    Yes, yes it is. But what people don't seem to realize is 2.0 is TWO years away. It would not be fair to make gatherers toil in an endless void of nothingness for two year while everyone else gets major game play enhancements.
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  8. #2058
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teakwood View Post
    Careful, guys, your sense of entitlement is hanging out. (He said the class discussion is on the way, it's on the way. Gathering/crafting is a HUGE issue on the Japanese boards and a lot of people here clearly feel strongly about it, so it's worth the time hearing his justifications for his design decisions and priorities, even if you don't agree with them.)
    Indeed, but he should just say listen up bitches im the Producer deal with it !

    Go make your own game.

    This appears to have wasted a lot of his time on something we already knew about, is a little disheartening especially when we have more important things he could be talking about namely 1.20-1.21 content and changes.

    Also, I'm willing to bet gil and a cheese sandwich that they're holding off on the actual class post until they've got the English translation ready, because as wonderful as Reinheart is we all know there are people who would happily fly off the handle based on an ambiguous unofficial translation. >_>
    Definately, last thing they need is people to get the wrong idea.

    But what people don't seem to realize is 2.0 is TWO years away.
    I thought 2.0 was scheduled for next September.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 11-10-2011 at 07:46 AM.

  9. #2059
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesunz View Post
    Please use JP or JPN
    sorry, got caught in the spur of the moments :<
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  10. #2060
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    It's for anyone that thinks Gathering is important. It's too bad that Western playerbase couldn't care less.

    This appears to have wasted a lot of his time on something we already knew about, is a little disheartening especially when we have more important things he could be talking about namely 1.20-1.21 content and changes.
    Once again belittling anyone's opinion that isn't yours.
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