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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    there isnt much reason for a high level guy to grind old gear in this system, since the high level gear is good. Well since it is tiered, they may go to the lowest weapon in that tier, but really they will probably go to the cheapest in whatever tier.
    Right, when I said sub-par, I didn't mean you have to gimp yourself...just use older gear from the last 10 levels or so. Or for me, I can switch out my [item=5030108]Astaroth Cane[/item] for my old [item=5030205]Jade Crook[/item].

    I just wanted to note the difference between current high-leveled characters and new players, or people starting out in a new class. Whereas we'll be going back and making a concerted effort to go and grind for Materia (potentially having to buy even more gear in the process if we happened to sell our old Jade Crooks, for example... /tear), new players won't really need to experience this grind, since they can continuously turn each of their weapons into Materia to attach to their next weapon.

    Your second part brings up a good point though. Of course, it depends on which weapons will yield certain Materia, but once the system is figured out I'm sure most people will in fact start buying the cheapest weapons they can to achieve the same results. Why turn a Jade Crook into Materia IV, for example, when a cheaper weapon will yield the same results? It'll be interesting to see if they accounted for that.
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    Last edited by Chrees; 09-18-2011 at 04:44 AM.
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    Just to point out something to all the people complaining about others wearing "crapy" gear to grind materia. They won't be able to grind truly crappy gear very well. Since max spirit link progression happens when you're at optimal and the higher the level gear the better the materia, this will make sure people wear level apropriate gear at least when they grind for materia. Sure they won't be wearing their "leet sword of uberness", but at least they should be well equipped if they want fast solid results.

    Besides the place where you want the truly buff gear is in NM/HNM/Dungeon parties, it's not absolutely necessary for your standard grind parties. Not to mention that it gives rank 50's a reason to come party with the rank 43-49s.

    The biggest thing this does is give crafters a market for gear on a continuous basis. Since the existing gear goes bye bye when you convert it into materia, this means that people will want to either buy specific pieces to spirit bond with or replace the items they've converted to materia on a regular basis. Boom instant market. Thank god there's a simplified crafting system coming in or all the crafters would be screaming for inventory space... F. that, I'll still be screaming for inventory or vendor space. I'll take either, both would be preferable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letrange View Post
    Just to point out something to all the people complaining about others wearing "crapy" gear to grind materia. They won't be able to grind truly crappy gear very well. Since max spirit link progression happens when you're at optimal and the higher the level gear the better the materia, this will make sure people wear level apropriate gear at least when they grind for materia. Sure they won't be wearing their "leet sword of uberness", but at least they should be well equipped if they want fast solid results.


    Besides the place where you want the truly buff gear is in NM/HNM/Dungeon parties, it's not absolutely necessary for your standard grind parties. Not to mention that it gives rank 50's a reason to come party with the rank 43-49s.

    The biggest thing this does is give crafters a market for gear on a continuous basis. Since the existing gear goes bye bye when you convert it into materia, this means that people will want to either buy specific pieces to spirit bond with or replace the items they've converted to materia on a regular basis. Boom instant market. Thank god there's a simplified crafting system coming in or all the crafters would be screaming for inventory space... F. that, I'll still be screaming for inventory or vendor space. I'll take either, both would be preferable.
    I think they mean their +3s and rare ex gears. the hq, because they dont want to destroy it, and the rare ex because it wont actually be able to make materia.
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    Hey Rein, I remember seeing a post where a dev talked about Arcanist and compared it to Geomancer. Do you remember this post or know where it is? I can't find it anywhere.


    I could have dreamed it though..
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    Quotations forthcoming (hopefully soon). Yoshi-p left two more comments this morning. (Please use the auto-translate function)(Can I have it?)
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    Looking forward to translations.

    One post seems to be about the japanese name of attachment, but the other seems to have some details on the Materia system (Google translate seems to 100% confirm that materia can't be attached to Rare/Ex gear but it might be doable in further updates, that players will be able to attach the first materia themselves with kits, etc ...).
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    YoshiP Response - 09/19/11 Materia Craft info continued

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    プロデューサ/ディレクタの吉田です。
    Producer/Director Yoshida here,

    金曜夜(土曜朝になってしまいましたが)の吉田のポスト以降、
    一通り皆さんのフィードバックは読ませて頂きました!
    明日以降小まめにレスはつけさせて頂こうと思いますが、
    今日は確認諸々山のようにあるので、速報で失礼します
    After the post I made on Friday (became Saturday (JP time)), I read through everyones feedbacks!
    After tomorrow I would like to make smaller responses but today I have a lot of things to check today so going to post this one quickly


    ・「愛着度」の名称については変更を検討中(大切なことなのでご意見を参考に!)
    Planning to change the name "Aichakudo" (This is important so look through suggestions!) (I think this may only apply to JP locale naming)
    ・EX/RAREのアイテムのマテリア化は次回更新で検討

    Will look into next change for materializing ex/rare item.
     (EX/RAREでもマテリア化の際に優遇パラメータ無し、という前提で)
    (even with EX/RARE no favorable parameters )
    (I think this just means it will be materialized just like any regular equipment materia, no special effect/treatment.)

    ・EX/RAREへのマテリア装着は当面不可(コンテンツアップデート次第)
    ・計算式改修が同時に入りますのでパラメータ+1の重みが出るようになります(松井頑張ってます!)
    Attaching materia to Ex/Rare will not be possible for now (depends on content update)
    Calculation changes are coming in at same time so will make sure the +1 parameter will weigh more (more effect) (Matsui is working hard on this one!)


     (それを見越してマテリアの各数値も調整されています。現在も最終追い込み中)
    The values on materia parameters are being adjusted along with this, currently being checked till last minute.
    ・副道具/副用具もマテリア化・マテリア装着可能です(書き漏れしました…)
    Sub-Tool/Sub-gear is also can be made into materia, and can have materia attached. (missed to post...)


    速報の最後に。
    fast conclusion.
    マテリアクラフトの導入システムは「クエスト」として追加されます。
    Materia craft system will be included through a quest.

    また、仕様をすべて書きだして行くと、確かに複雑には見えますが、
    ひとつのアイテムに、ひとつのマテリアをはめる行為そのものは、
    部位によって装着可能なマテリア効果条件はありますが、
    装着自体は、失敗も無く、強化されるのみですので、さほど複雑ではないと思っています。
    あくまでスタートラインの仕組みです。
    When writing down all the details for the materia craft it seems like a difficult system but attaching one materia to one item itself, although it has restriction on which part you can attach the materia but performing attachment itself doesn't have any failure (since its the first one) and it only makes the equipment better, so I don't think it's difficult.
    Just talking basically about the start line.


    パラメータに拘り、狙ったマテリア効果を求め始めると、
    仕様詳細の把握が必要になります。が、それはゲームとして自然なことかと
    できるだけパラメータは公式公開の方針でいきます!
    Once you get into parameters, and aim for specific effect materia, it will require you to understand more about the system, but for a game I think that's natural
    For parameters will try as much to release the information!
    (I think he's talking about materia parameters, or which gear will become what materia - just my guess here.)

    これから長い期間、アップデートしていくコンテンツですので、
    むしろ「禁断」以外は、できるだけシンプルに作られています。
    (吉田の説明が悪かったかもしれません)
    This content (materia system) is a long term content so will be updated along the way, so aside from the forbidden it is made as much as possible to be simple.
    (maybe my explanation previously was bad)


    まずはパッチ1.19で、生み出されるマテリアに、皆さん一喜一憂して頂いて、
    思い思いの自己強化して頂けたらなと思っています
    First after patch 1.19 please try to make your own materia and try it out and from there power up along the way would appreciate it
    (Basically try it out before saying this is not good! or w/e since some already worried about this system...)

    ではまた、書き込みしますね!
    See you all later (actual is: I'll post later)
    This part might only apply to JP locale for the naming of the attachment point but I'll just translate and post it here with this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by maorainyday View Post
    愛着度の名称変更歓迎します。
    どのような名称になるのかは確定次第ポストしてくださると嬉しいです。
    I accept the change of the naming "Aichakudo" If you could please post once the new name is confirmed would appreciate it.
    皆さんからポスト頂いた名称も含め、マッチするものを!と思って検討中です!
    皆さんも引き続き良いアイデアありましたら、ポストをお願いします
    確定しましたら、お知らせしますー!
    We are looking into this while looking at all the names all of you have suggested and matching it!
    If you have any good ideas please post
    Once it's confirmed will let you know!
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    (maybe my explanation previously was bad)
    Or maybe people can't read... ._.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Or maybe people can't read... ._.
    Or maybe people reading too much into it? lol.
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    woo exactly 200 translations now on this thread (aside from interview tranlsations I posted) yay
    Didn't even think it was 200 yet lol, was just like ooh went over 1000 posts so lemme check how many is actual translation and counted the OP stuff and with todays post was exactly 200 lol.

    Anyways... useless info lol
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