Mac client?

[cotti]

Funny that makes you sad, because it's "a bit" more based on facts (actually, only the Reinheart's translation part, because the part he says Apple makes no restrictions is hilarious) than the post you chose as truth as in "This guy gets it".

[Bossycow]

Funny that makes you sad, because it's "a bit" more based on facts (actually, only the Reinheart's translation part, because the part he says Apple makes no restrictions is hilarious) than the post you chose as truth as in "This guy gets it".

I never said anything was fiction. The part I'm sad about is a quote about the development team scoffing off the idea of extending support.

Also, what's non-factual about what I quoted?

Hahaha I love this thread, Mac users buy an overpriced PC because it looks pretty and they don't want to use Windows, then end up having to pay extra to put windows on said overpriced PC. Enjoy spending all your money apple users :P

You know there are many MANY other reasons people buy a different operating system besides "it looks pretty..."

[ArkhamNative]

I never said anything was fiction. The part I'm sad about is a quote about the development team scoffing off the idea of extending support.

I didn't see it as scoffing. Yoshi-P explicitly says, even during the presentation, that he personally wants a Mac version (and also mentioned it over a year ago). I took the "joking" and "laugh" to be that he knows their schedule & resources don't allow time for it, yet he keeps mentioning his wish to the team.

As for "Mac's demands", it could mean amount of resources and technical requirements. We don't know what that involves. Like elsewhere for what sounds like a simple thing, he says their cost to allow storing users' hotbar & macro settings on the server "will require a couple of millions in investment".


Late edit: That "millions" is in yen. That would probably translate to "over US$20,000", so not "cheap" but not as outrageously expensive as it initially sounded.

[gadzi_h]

As for "Mac's demands", it could mean amount of resources and technical requirements. We don't know what that involves. Like elsewhere for what sounds like a simple thing, he says their cost to allow storing users' hotbar & macro settings on the server "will require a couple of millions in investment".

OpenGL is available on Mac and you can code in c++, LUA, ... on Mac, but I would suspect the game engine they are using does not support Mac OS which would mean they would either need to get the company who makes their engine to program a Mac version, or code their own. = not going to happen.

and in regards to the app store, you don't have to distribute using the app store it is a choice not a requirement so patching costing money isn't the reason. So I am going to have to give ArkhamNative the win on that one

[DoctorPepper]

Hahaha I love this thread, Mac users buy an overpriced PC because it looks pretty and they don't want to use Windows, then end up having to pay extra to put windows on said overpriced PC. Enjoy spending all your money apple users :P

[Tannlore]

Hahaha I love this thread, Mac users buy an overpriced PC because it looks pretty and they don't want to use Windows, then end up having to pay extra to put windows on said overpriced PC. Enjoy spending all your money apple users :P

Really? Did this contribute anything to the discussion? Was it really necessary to insult someone just to make yourself feel better? Also as Bossycow said people who buy macs do so for reasons other than, "Hey it looks cool" some of us have industry standards to deal with.

I'm not 100% clear on the details, but Apple usually requires ports to go through an approval process.
And it's very rare you'll see a big name port not on Mac App.

STO released a mac client late last years that was nothing but a formally packaged wine client. It is still in beta but works quite well. I don't see why they can't do this with FF14. .

[DoctorPepper]

Really? Did this contribute anything to the discussion? Was it really necessary to insult someone just to make yourself feel better? Also as Bossycow said people who buy macs do so for reasons other than, "Hey it looks cool" some of us have industry standards to deal with.

Haha, it contributed to the thread by bumping it in the very least, although I'm not sure that will help your cause in the long run. I don't recall insulting anybody, just remarking on the fact that apple products are incredibly overpriced, and you're right, some people buy them for their jobs regardless of the fact that almost all the software comes out on Windows anyways. I don't regret my remarks to be honest and in the long run I do hope they release a Mac client, believe it or not. That doesn't change the fact that I think it's funny to see people who bought Macs in a game forum complaining, sorry if that offends you.

[Tannlore]

Haha, it contributed to the thread by bumping it in the very least, although I'm not sure that will help your cause in the long run.....

My cause? I play on a Homebrewed PC actually, but I thank you for your assumptions. Honestly the Argumentum ad antiquitatem when it comes to gaming is contrite at this point. Why anyone would enjoy seeing fellow games suffer or unable to enjoy games is beyond me.

You also say you didn't mean to offend anyone, yet in the same breath say you are enjoying the languishing of others. I suppose I should thank you for the bump, though more mature and less self-centric method would have been better. It is this kind of behavior that makes the forums... well what they are. Don't contribute to the trash please.

[DoctorPepper]

My cause? I play on a Homebrewed PC actually, but I thank you for your assumptions. Honestly the Argumentum ad antiquitatem when it comes to gaming is contrite at this point. Why anyone would enjoy seeing fellow games suffer or unable to enjoy games is beyond me.

You also say you didn't mean to offend anyone, yet in the same breath say you are enjoying the languishing of others. I suppose I should thank you for the bump, though more mature and less self-centric method would have been better. It is this kind of behavior that makes the forums... well what they are. Don't contribute to the trash please.

Well I would assume the cause of this thread is to promote the Mac client, and considering you're getting so defensive over a little bit of laughter and a comment about people paying too much money for Mac, that you are probably part of that cause or at least care about it. If you're not and you don't then go ahead and substitute "your" for "this thread's".

As for the second part, I mean if you can say you've never laughed at the sight of somebody falling down then I won't call you a hypocrite but the fact is, people find humor in the suffering (minor/non-threatening) of others and guess what, that's not a new concept :P.

Now go back to nitpicking my post so that you can find something else you find offensive, I only have a couple more work hours left.

A slight correction for you. I do appreciate the thread bump, though!

Haha I can appreciate the edit if you can appreciate the bump, my friend. Good luck with your endeavors.

[Bossycow]

some people buy them for their jobs regardless of the fact that almost all games comes out on Windows anyways.

A slight correction for you. I do appreciate the thread bump, though!