Dear YoshiP, please stop misusing the word "raid".

[syntaxlies]

From: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...JP-4gamer-site



Dear YoshiP,

I know I'm nitpicking, but it's really frustrating that you're misusing this word. You reference WoW, which is a good thing since a lot of people learned the term overthere, but your explanation is incorrect...

In WoW a raid is formed when the size of one party is not enough. When you switch to raid style, you're able to bind up to 8 parties together. Making it possible for up to 5x8= 40 people to play together.

The properties of a raid are also different from a normal party. In a raid, you are unable to complete objectives of standard quests and minitargets of all raidparties, with their members, will become available. Plus /raid chatting (similar to /party) is enabled to cover all the parties.

In WoW "raids" are associated with large-scale PvE (and also large-scale PvP), because you start using raids for content that's designed for a minimum of 10 players.

The term you should be using for content that's instanced and requires strategy is "dungeon" or just plain "instance". A dungeon for a regular party is never called a raid in WoW.

A "raid dungeon" in FFXIV would be a dungeon for large-scale PvE content: 16+ players (atleast 2 parties bound together)

I hope this post is clear enough to show the proper use of the words "raid" and "dungeon"/"instance".

I know alot of people are frustrated withe the word raid especially being tagged a wow term, but these dungeon sieges are raids by definition and maybe thats what counts.

raid: a sudden assault or attack, as upon something to be seized or suppressed: a police raid on a gambling ring.

i said it before i don't care what they call it as long as it doesn't suck.

[Elexia]

If WoW considered going in solo and dying horribly to be a raid you'd have people saying:

"A raid isn't successful completion of an end-game event! It's going in solo and horribly dying!"

I guarantee it.

[syntaxlies]

If WoW considered going in solo and dying horribly to be a raid you'd have people saying:

"A raid isn't successful completion of an end-game event! It's going in solo and horribly dying!"

I guarantee it.

i have no clue what you are trying to say

[Betelgeuzah]

Everyone cares. If the raid is only 8 people ITS NOT A RAID. Its just an instance. A raid has more then 8 people. Thats extremely boring and most people will probably get bored fast. And the fact its only one dungeon is very disappointing. If this is temporary content that's fine, but at least take the time to say something.

More people = more excitement! More challenge!

/sarcastic tone

[Starlord]

I really don't get why some people are hung up on this word raid, like it makes a difference what they call it. The point being is right now they are fixing this game from a horrible state. How come 1 word (being Raid) suddenly the end of the world?

Right now I'm /facepalming at every person who is crying over how they call a Dungeon. Its really sad right now, not that I blame you because how the game is people nitpick at everything but "a word". And I thought have thunderstorms for 3 days straight was bad... lol

[Reinheart]

Man this thread is still going? LMAO I said before the interview where for me raid was something involving more than one party, but after the interview and YoshiP giving the reason behind it + for large-scale PvE he will call it large-scale PvE was enough for me. It's not a big fricken deal... close this stupid thread already lol.

[Starlord]

Man this thread is still going? LMAO I said before the interview where for me raid was something involving more than one party, but after the interview and YoshiP giving the reason behind it + for large-scale PvE he will call it large-scale PvE was enough for me. It's not a big fricken deal... close this stupid thread already lol.

^this X1000 hung up over a little word D:

[TomCarroll]

Um, this isn't WoW? Why must we adopt their terminology?

Yes. Since the whole idea was borrowed, they can at least get it right.

[Elexia]

Yes. Since the whole idea was borrowed, they can at least get it right.

What idea was borrowed?

[Nuru]

So not 8, but 9 people is a Raid? SE, you are one man short from being logical in using the term "raid."

/sarcasm

I'm sure we'll come up with our own names for certain instances/raids anyways.. Goodness..

so..

Deal with it. 8)