t2 got ninja nerfed?

[Cherie]

Sove and Nelodar you are correct. Comment was deleted because I realized this. Kneejerk post :x

Either way it shouldn't matter too much becuase they commented in the last Q&A that when the echo buff is applied you would even be able to survive not passing rot or something like that.

Nope, they said that you could survive *Lazers* not Allagan Rot. Since someone not passing Rot just ends the encounter and doesn't actually show (on my screen atleast) as hitting for a amount of damage, I would suggest that even with echo buff, not passing rot equals death. However, with echo buff, there is no reason you can't ignore everything else and only worry about rot. It will still be easy... :/

Edit: After I posted this, I saw someone posted the quote I mentioned. I guess they did say you could survive rot!

[Dorin]

Hopefully it's true.

[Lexia]

On one hand it does not make sense but on the other hand it make perfect sense. Why would they modify the enrage method just to make 1-5 easier in 2.2 a month later but then again they "buff" it without telling everyone and then in 2.2 remove the buff again and say they made it easier. Think SE could really be that back handed?

[prymortal]

lol 2.2 DF Turn 2 without enrage. Its titan HM for ilvl 55 players all over again.

To many failed Rot they should of removed it, changed it, or adjusted it to be suriveable. Lack of testing by developers & lack of keeping watch on whats going on in this game by developers sickens me!

i got sick & tired of teaching rot to players & Everyone like ok i know what to do now!... then they dont even attempt to do what was talked about, explained, pointed out!. Or still autopassing it! Looking at all your DRG's & monks here!!!!
(usualy a DRG/MNK auto passing due to the bad mechanic of how many i needs to pass to. Or a Bard due to the bad mechanic or having to deal with Rot & silence so healers dont get parazlised because most PLD's cant tank & silence at the same time..... Overall a not well thought out & bad mechanic)

& for those that cant read, yes i can do it. i have also taught people how to do it, i've been there when other have taught people to do it~ many have failed doesnt matter who teaches its to hard for them.

[Xaphire]

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To many failed Rot they should of removed it, changed it, or adjusted it to be suriveable. Lack of testing by developers & lack of keeping watch on whats going on in this game by developers sickens me!

This statement is what's wrong with the MMO community. There was nothing wrong with the rot mechanic, and if people couldn't comprehend how to pass a debuff between four people perhaps coil isn't for them. It wasn't rocket surgery.

[Mergadeth]

Found the quote

Also, every week that passes after patch 2.2 is implemented “The Echo” buff will start being applied, and while you are in the dungeon you will become stronger, and since your item levels will also be higher, it will be much easier to win. Ultimately it will be eased to the point where even if you eat Piercing Laser or some member dies while passing Allagan Rot around, you’ll be able to endure. You’ll also be able to remove the buff if you want to challenge the Binding Coil of Bahamut at its original difficulty. Rather than saying the difficulty itself will decrease, I think it's more accurate to say that players will be getting stronger every week.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/143655 (48:08)

So from what i read, the buff will only increase weekly and not per wipe. If you wish, you can still turn it off and keep doing it the normal way.
But the question still remains...did they change the T2 enrage or not? At this point i just want to know and can adapt as needed and move on.

[prymortal]

Found the quote

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/143655 (48:08)

Cheak the quote "or some member dies while passing Allagan Rot around" if a member dies passing, it gets reset/recast anyway. If a member doesnt pass it, it wipes the party.

So its a joke to add echo when it wont do anything to save us from the noobs (enrage & DF noobs)

[Gamemako]

So its a joke to add echo when it wont do anything to save us from the noobs (enrage & DF noobs)

Any halfwit could blow through T2 rot in the first place. There is one and only one thing keeping players out of that method: party comp. Stack 3+ ranged DPS, trololo through. When Echo comes, everyone will just disable rot (Sanitary -> Attack -> Quarantine) and use Echo to power through def buffs and Firestream screwups.

[prymortal]

Any halfwit could blow through T2 rot in the first place. T

clearly you missed the other post & it explain how SO WRONG YOU ARE
Halfwits cant do it, the majority of players in this game cant. I teach & teach & teach, explain, Nope. i've seen bricks that can play better!

This statement is what's wrong with the MMO community. There was nothing wrong with the rot mechanic, and if people couldn't comprehend how to pass a debuff between four people perhaps coil isn't for them. It wasn't rocket surgery.

The statement you quoted is whats right in the commutity, the Dev's really need to Look at how things work. This game has so much wrong from a MMO & gaming perspective in respect to balance. & yet people like you say Shut up & live with it.. OK heres a broken heart it has a big hole in it, but it still pumps it'll cost you $15 a month Shut up & live with it. You wouldnt take it would you?
See people like you are whats wrong with mmo commutitys

[Xaphire]

clearly you missed the other post & it explain how SO WRONG YOU ARE
Halfwits cant do it, the majority of players in this game cant. I teach & teach & teach, explain, Nope. i've seen bricks that can play better!



The statement is whats right in the commutity, the Dev's really need to Look at how things work. This game has so much wrong from a MMO perspective in balance. & yet people like you say Shut up & live with it.. OK heres a broken heart it has a big hole in it, but it still pumps it'll cost you $15 a month Shut up & live with it. You wouldnt take it would you?
See people like you are whats wrong with mmo commutitys

It was clearly stated that coil wasn't intended for those players. Coil was intended for a very coordinated group ready to deal with more complex mechanics and put in hours of progression runs if necessary. It's not meant for a brand new pick-up group formed in wineport that'll implode after one wipe -- those kinds of players get to do the first part of coil in 2.2.