t2 got ninja nerfed?

[SulwynCaliope]

What I don't understand is why one of the main arguments against enrage is that it "takes longer"? Sure we wait around a few extra minutes for the boss to enrage but how is that a minus at all? "It took me 45 mins instead of 40 mins to clear t1-4 today" Ok? It's 5 extra minutes that you were probably gonna spend doing nothing anyway. Stop using "enrage takes longer" as a negative thing against enrage mode since it doesn't actually take that much longer than rot method. If enrage mode took half an hour vs 5 mins for rot, then I'd understand the argument but you're putting people down over 5 MINUTES of wasted time. -_-

Also, I do enrage method to clear t2 and STILL clear t4 every week. Just because I use a method not approved of by elitists, doesn't mean I don't have the skills to clear t4. T4 is not that hard if you put in the effort to learn the mechanics.

[PandaPause]

What I don't understand is why one of the main arguments against enrage is that it "takes longer"? Sure we wait around a few extra minutes for the boss to enrage but how is that a minus at all? "It took me 45 mins instead of 40 mins to clear t1-4 today" Ok? It's 5 extra minutes that you were probably gonna spend doing nothing anyway. Stop using "enrage takes longer" as a negative thing against enrage mode since it doesn't actually take that much longer than rot method. If enrage mode took half an hour vs 5 mins for rot, then I'd understand the argument but you're putting people down over 5 MINUTES of wasted time. -_-

Also, I do enrage method to clear t2 and STILL clear t4 every week. Just because I use a method not approved of by elitists, doesn't mean I don't have the skills to clear t4. T4 is not that hard if you put in the effort to learn the mechanics.

Nailed it.

[starswept]

Quote.

Exactly.
The "It takes longer" and "enrage method people wont pass t4" arguments are extremely silly and hold no weight. LFBetter arguments pls.
Let people do it how they want. They arent hacking or forcing a glitch.

[chocomaid]

I really don't mind variation in tactics, promoting different set ups so people can alternate in FC so everybody is happy. Variation in playstyle and tactics to have many different outcomes is what makes games in general fun, not just mmo's. Seeing both side's arguments I'm still gonna go with the normal tactics.

I just don't understand why an "Enrage" mechanic is being healed through as it is there to KILL the group, if it is not doing that, then it's not doing it's job as an enrage mechanic.

Promotion of friendliness, variation in strat/setup gogo. Faulty mechanics, nono. I'm not very focused in raiding as most people in this thread but just voicing a point.

[alhandra]

gonna be hella funny when coil goes into DF and requires the standard 2 2 4 setup to enter. turn 2 gonna be a ghost town

[Farah]

gonna be hella funny when coil goes into DF and requires the standard 2 2 4 setup to enter. turn 2 gonna be a ghost town

If you go in with a static group, which is what a lot of people do, it won't change anything. You aren't required to have that set up. If you are DFing coil you are going to have a bad time anyway, no matter the set up.

[MorbidAngel]

Not sure if this point has been brought up yet, but people are forgetting that the likely hood that you wipe during enrage with a pug is a lot less than a pug passing rot.

[Velthice]

I just like the argument that the enrage mode "cheapens the encounter" when what they really mean to say is "cheapens my own feeling of accomplishment in a meaningless video game." My other favorite argument is "the way it's meant to be played" which has been echoed countless times in other multiplayer games. It's hilarious and maybe a bit sad the lengths people will go to to bolster their own self worth in something so utterly meaningless as a video game.

[Taika]

I just like the argument that the enrage mode "cheapens the encounter" when what they really mean to say is "cheapens my own feeling of accomplishment in a meaningless video game." My other favorite argument is "the way it's meant to be played" which has been echoed countless times in other multiplayer games. It's hilarious and maybe a bit sad the lengths people will go to to bolster their own self worth in something so utterly meaningless as a video game.

No game can be "utterly meaningless" to a person who spends time on and even pays for playing it.

[Kaurik]

I actually enjoy the mechanic that the development team took the time to create and find it interesting. Enraged method takes too long.