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    Gwaeron's Avatar
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    Gwaeryn Wenyan
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    It hasn't. If you somehow believe that SMN can heal for nuts, then there's no convincing you of anything.
    It has been done, I have played it and I do not understand why you refuse to believe me. Go ahead and check for yourself.
    If you indeed do know how to read, you will notice how I've been saying SMN can't heal well and that old WAR couldn't DD well (in comparison to real healers and real DDs). Me and OP want the damage dealing to not be boring, nowhere have we stated that this needs to be overpowered and that we need to do tons more damage than we do now. You are aware that "change" does not equal "buffing", right...?

    I also said I wouldn't mind at all if they gave the damage dealing aspect of WAR to a separate MRD-based job earlier. No-one is expecting WAR to be as good at DDing as a true DD.
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    Last edited by Gwaeron; 01-23-2014 at 12:52 AM.

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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaeron View Post
    Me and OP want the damage dealing to not be boring...
    Ain't no dev got time for that!

    I'd much rather have a new primal, or a fix to the game, or a new 4 man dungeon, or a NEW class/job, than to make playing WAR slightly more fun in Crystal Tower.

    If this is just a pipe-dream wish-list, then that's totally cool, and I agree it would be awesome if they made a super fun stance for WARs while not tanking. However, that takes time and money that I hope are appropriated elsewhere.
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    Gamemako's Avatar
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I thought it was because Maim.. Effectively makes Defiance penalty only 5%. Fight of Flight is a good offensive buff, but can't be kept up 100% of the time.
    MRD has higher damage in general than GLA. The class has higher potency, a 20% buff, and a 10% debuff. It seems to me that this was done in preparation for a DPS job. MRD originally fell fairly close to LNC, and your MRD DPS job would be more about the utility and/or damage offered by the abilities and less about disruptive mechanics. By contrast, any other GLA job needs a highly disruptive mechanic like Darkside to shift roles. Sword Oath exists to maintain balance between WAR and PLD in off-tanking situations, so there are really two possibilities here. First, they have a mechanic in mind and are willing to sacrifice a job slot for tank-specific balance; or alternatively, they wanted to cram as much tank into the class as possible and finding room for DPS abilities was too limited to justify not just throwing it onto the job.

    As for Sword Oath mechanics, at least from my phase 3 data, it adds a 50 potency attack to each autoattack (was 25). This is greater than a 50% autoattack damage buff.
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    Last edited by Gamemako; 01-23-2014 at 03:29 AM.

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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    As for Sword Oath mechanics, at least from my phase 3 data, it adds a 50 potency attack to each autoattack (was 25). This is greater than a 50% autoattack damage buff.
    It still does. It adds an extra attack with every auto-attack you make. Auto-attacks are 83.33 potency per GCD over time, so, with a swing speed of 2.32 (Curtana's; keep in mind, that's *slow* for the swords; Allagan and Break Blade are both 2.16), you're getting an extra 53.9 potency per GCD from Sword Oath, which is a ~65% improvement in total damage from your auto-attacks.
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