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  1. #31
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    KiiNGKRUSH's Avatar
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    Grimm Lock
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    All I can really say is for short fights, mobs die twice as fast for me when I send Ifrit in. Longer fights I always use Garuda. However something odd happened in Titan Hm last night-3 summoners joined and all used Ifrit. That includes me, we did not win but it wasn't for lack of DPS, I noticed Titans HP dropping faster then normal.

    Thing is we tried all Garudas as is the norm but 3 Ifrits were melting her faster. Can't explain it but all know is we switched back to Ifrit the rest of night.
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  2. #32
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    Kevee's Avatar
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    Virtual On
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pride View Post
    I'll be honest, I don't totally see why everyone is completely against using Ifrit for certain fights. Garuda is fantastic, sure, but they both have their shining moments. What annoys me is when people do not seem to understand that Garuda only out shines Ifrit in fights that will last longer than a minutes without the mob going invulnerable (IE Garuda jumping). Fantastic if she is able to make your DoTs last another 15 seconds, does it matter though if the mob dies within the time-frame of the DoTs' original timers? No. In-fact, you lost dps if anything by having Garuda out instead of Ifrit for that particular part of the fight.

    Also, don't be afraid to switch between pets during fights, keeping one or the other throughout the entire fight may not always be the best course of action. I think it's incredibly unfair to say that Ifrit has no place anywhere. He is viable, he is useful, and he is probably used the most for me aside from boss fights, and about 50% of the time during boss fights. Dat swiftcast pet switching is pretty fancy stuff if you know when to use it correctly.
    Garuda.
    Does.
    More.
    DPS.
    Than.
    Ifrit.

    Period.

    The only time to use Ifrit is if you have a MNK, and your BRD isn't using Foe Req at all(if the fight is short enough to not use 2 Contagions).

    Do not switch pets unless you have a reason to, DPS-wise. If you don't, do not do it. Unless you have a MNK and a no-Foe Req BRD, there is no reason to. It costs too much MP.

    Oh, and that still only applies until the second contagion. Contagion makes up for the difference(and more) in DPS versus a No FR Garuda vs DK Ifrit. Not to mention a multitude of other benefits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp007 View Post
    use FFXIVAPP to see your damage ........do not listen to ppl
    everyone will say garuda <---- lol

    garuda is good only in some fight cuz she is range and help in dot only
    but for lot damage and total damge at the end of the fight...
    garuda cant do 50% of ifrit damge
    so use FFXIVAPP ...... see by your self
    test all this
    and about to keep your dot on mobs or boss
    you have lot MP keep it up ....it is easy thing ^^

    1 more time use FFXIVAPP <----- the prove is here ^^
    http://i.imgur.com/KncsHRD.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/eSN0wrF.jpg


    sup?


    Updated(I hate you T0rin, book won't drop):

    http://i.imgur.com/c3A7rPS.jpg


    http://i.imgur.com/HoazZCF.jpg
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    Last edited by Kevee; 01-04-2014 at 05:26 AM.

  3. #33
    Player
    Madoka's Avatar
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    Ayukawa Madoka
    World
    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pride View Post
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    Any fight longer than a minute is a boss fight. Any boss fight I'm using my swift on shadowflare. Ifrit isn't worth as much as contagion on any boss fight either.
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  4. #34
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    T0rin's Avatar
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp007 View Post
    use FFXIVAPP to see your damage ........do not listen to ppl
    everyone will say garuda <---- lol

    garuda is good only in some fight cuz she is range and help in dot only
    but for lot damage and total damge at the end of the fight...
    garuda cant do 50% of ifrit damge
    so use FFXIVAPP ...... see by your self
    test all this
    and about to keep your dot on mobs or boss
    you have lot MP keep it up ....it is easy thing ^^

    1 more time use FFXIVAPP <----- the prove is here ^^
    Garuda Obey: http://i.imgur.com/f8mYFTH.png


    Ifirt Obey: http://i.imgur.com/5Gpx16l.png


    Ifrit Sic: http://i.imgur.com/EMwgK1W.png


    Sup? "the prove is here ^^"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Updated(I hate you T0rin, book won't drop):
    Updated(Sorry): Here is a nice anecdote that should make your day. Since I didn't need any more gear from T5, I swapped FC raid groups to another one that was still working on T5, to help them get it down. The SMN that replaced me in my T5 farm group got his book on his first Twintania kill. I also hate every SMN that has seen Allagan Pants drop. Curse my luck. :P
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    Last edited by T0rin; 01-04-2014 at 05:42 AM.

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  6. #35
    Player
    T0rin's Avatar
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehunter View Post
    +1 ^^ Is that robomongo or sql viewer?
    Oracle SQL Developer. It is a piece of crap, but it gets the job done.
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  7. #36
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    xxalucard's Avatar
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    Nurse Joy
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    I also hate every SMN that has seen Allagan Pants drop. Curse my luck. :P
    Ever since I started doing Coil I've NEVER seen the pants drop once either. I feel your pain. @&#! you for having the book though, 7 twin kills and still no drop .

    P.S- Ifrit sucks
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  8. #37
    Player
    T0rin's Avatar
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Ever since I started doing Coil I've NEVER seen the pants drop once either. I feel your pain. @&#! you for having the book though, 7 twin kills and still no drop .

    P.S- Ifrit sucks
    Summoners: We enjoy great comradery amongst our brethren. Until one of us gets a drop the other has been waiting on. Then @&#1 you.
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  9. #38
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    Georgevonfranken's Avatar
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    Candy Apple
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    I also hate every SMN that has seen Allagan Pants drop. Curse my luck. :P
    Same here, some groups rub it in my face when it drops because that is all I need!

    Surprisingly the book was the first allagan piece I got not counting ring and earring.
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  10. #39
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    Seobit's Avatar
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    Luna Clear
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    10 min parses.





    :|

    ???
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  11. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seobit View Post
    10 min parses.





    :|

    ???
    Garuda on Sic?
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