IS THIS A JOKE?! NOTHING was done to fix the netcode.

[Ri_ri]

Sometimes I think this game will live on the "Final Fantasy" trademark... because this kind of stuff would be unnacceptable anywhere else, including Warcraft.

[Halock]

UK player here - London
I've played FF14 on two different ISP's now, Virgin and Plusnet ( three if you count 1.0 ), Can't say i have any of the issues people complain about. I get lag spikes like everyone else, very few and far between though. The mechanics of some fights are such that there is no room for error, you see the thing on the ground, you start movin immediately or else you're going to get hit.
I feel for the players who have the problems described, but when the majority of players don't have them, SE has to come to the conclusion that the problem is not at their end but the other side, whether it be ISP or PC related
Personally what i think is happening to the majority of people complaining about this is the ff14 traffic being flagged as P2P and being traffic shaped and Qos'd to hell, a lot of ISP's do this and don't tell end customers.
Heck I've played tethered via phone ( 3g not even 4G ) and its been ok, barring some dc's

[reality_check]

Have you ever traced the route your ISP takes to the datacenters?

This is my Ping to the server. Not amazing -- not awful.

[eagledorf]

Did you guys watch the same video I did? Yes, ok, you shouldn't jump out of an AOE, but he was very clearly out of the landslide long before it went off. It's really not ok that the game plays like that. (I do notice a marked improvement in Titan HM since the patch myself, though)

One suggestion I have for you is to take a look at how fast your hard drive is and adjust your visuals down as much as possible if it's a slower drive. I reinstalled FFXIV to my faster HDD and lowered my graphics and now I have this type of problem much less frequently.

[Shirai]

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This is my Ping to the server. Not amazing -- not awful.

That is a ping, not a trace.

[reality_check]

That is a ping, not a trace.

What would the difference be? Who cares where it's going if I know how fast it's getting there?

[Shirai]

A trace tells you how many hops it takes from your machine towards the datacenter, using the right programming you can find out which of the hops is the cause of any delay or packet loss between your computer and the datacenter.

Read the following thread, there's some good info there about these things: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-second-delays

This is a trace I did a while ago when I was still on Excalibur:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                               TOMODACHI -    0 |  875 |  875 |    0 |    0 |    6 |    0 |
|                           10.15.172.129 -    1 |  871 |  870 |    5 |    8 |   39 |    6 |
|                           212.142.62.89 -    1 |  871 |  870 |    6 |    8 |   35 |    7 |
|      nl-ams05a-rd2-ae-80-2370.aorta.net -    1 |  871 |  870 |    6 |   12 |   62 |    9 |
|                           84.116.138.97 -    1 |  871 |  870 |    7 |   11 |   48 |    8 |
|                          84.116.134.113 -    1 |  871 |  870 |    6 |   10 |   69 |   10 |
|                           213.46.182.18 -    1 |  871 |  870 |    6 |   10 |   66 |    9 |
|            xe-4-2-0.mtl10.ip4.tinet.net -    1 |  860 |  856 |   94 |   99 |  172 |   96 |
|                 ormuco-gw.ip4.tinet.net -    1 |  867 |  865 |   95 |   96 |  119 |   96 |
|                             192.34.76.2 -    1 |  864 |  861 |   95 |   98 |  167 |   95 |
|                          199.91.189.234 -    1 |  864 |  861 |    0 |  101 |  114 |   99 |
|                           199.91.189.38 -    1 |  871 |  870 |   98 |  101 |  113 |  100 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

[reality_check]

A trace tells you how many hops it takes from your machine towards the datacenter, using the right programming you can find out which of the hops is the cause of any delay or packet loss between your computer and the datacenter.

Read the following thread, there's some good info there about these things: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-second-delays

The ping reports 0 data packets lost. Is this the same thing?

[Asdamine]

Many of my friends have problems with lags. I have ping 160-170 and I have no problem with running out from plumes. The main problem of lags is BAD ROUTE to the server. For example you live in Germany, but your connection isnt going direct to Canada, but going through Spain, Brazil and only then to Canada. It is provider problem. One of the best advice here- use good proxy (vpn) to make your route connection much more direct to servers. WTFAST- is a good program for this. It has 1 month trial. And dont forget to make a tracing of your connection till the servers- you will know exactly where do you have connection, packets and ping loss (on the territory of some countries, i guess). Good luck

I have a problem with the word "Canada".

[Halock]

0 out of 4 isnt much, also, Pings use the ICMP protocol which typically isnt messed with via any ISP policies, you could easily get the most stellar pings and short traces but if your ISP traffic shapes ff14 packets for low priority you'll get the poor performance described, isp's dont like p2p traffic typically....