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  1. #11
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    Ravarashi's Avatar
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    Rava Rashi
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/6463/MNK-...Q-Deviled-Eggs
    My current BiS. the massive drop in SS usefulness has caused our BiS to change drastically, meaning that currently, no one is really sure what's the overall best. And, as always, opinion will CONTINUE to play a huge factor. However, there is no denying that your biggest goal (after acc cap) should be to get a lot of DET
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  2. #12
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    Syhril Lahnia
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    My proposed BiS Pre Turn 5. These sets are assuming you use the food provided.
    First set is slightly better than the second.
    (Note: You need 480ish Acc for the snakes during the Twintania fight, any other and you can cut a lot off.)

    Sphairai Zenith w/ Button Blanket HQ
    A:Boots, Head, Waist, Gloves, Bracelet (M), Rings (S) (M)
    M:Chest, Legs, Neck
    P:Earring
    Acc:143 Crit:100 Det:123 SS:65

    Hellish Claws w/ Button Blanket HQ
    A:Boots, Head, Waist, Gloves, Rings (S) (M)
    M:Chest, Legs, Bracelet, Neck
    P:Earring
    Acc:143 Crit:89 Det:149 SS:39
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    Last edited by Traison; 12-27-2013 at 11:56 AM.

  3. #13
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    Gamemako's Avatar
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Thank you for the link. This is a rather peculiar result, and I should like to replicate it. I know that FFXIV-APP is known to miss one in 60 (or was it 600?) reports. If that is the case and one was missed, your 101st reported hit would be at 328.44 seconds -- which was actually observed. I will do some testing over 30 minute to an hour and simply count the number of hits over that interval with and without skill speed. That should give me a more definitive answer.
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  4. #14
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    duceTRE's Avatar
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    Character
    Zell Dinch't
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Traison View Post
    Sphairai Zenith w/ Button Blanket HQ
    A:Boots, Head, Waist, Gloves, Bracelet (M), Rings (S) (M)
    M:Chest, Legs, Neck
    P:Earring
    Acc:143 Crit:100 Det:123 SS:65
    Quick question, you claim this is a "pre-T5" build yet you include the bracelets of maiming, a turn 5 drop. Not sure if it's a typo but might wanna consider something else. A pre-turn 5 build should be items BEFORE turn 5 right? Or am I wrong.
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  5. #15
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Thank you for the link. This is a rather peculiar result, and I should like to replicate it. I know that FFXIV-APP is known to miss one in 60 (or was it 600?) reports. If that is the case and one was missed, your 101st reported hit would be at 328.44 seconds -- which was actually observed. I will do some testing over 30 minute to an hour and simply count the number of hits over that interval with and without skill speed. That should give me a more definitive answer.
    Hmm. . .true, but I visually observed the first attack land between the 1 and 2 second mark, which throws everything off. I do agree that a longer test would quell any doubts, though. I was just doing that one during my lunch break. >_>
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  6. #16
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    Cookie Monster
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    This is what I came up with.

    ffxiv.ariyala.com
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  7. #17
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    time: 30m
    hits: 531
    skill speed: 435
    list delay: 3.36
    recorded delay: 3.390

    time: 14m (the thing reset on me at around 20m, but whatever)
    hits: 248
    skill speed: 341
    list delay: 3.36
    recorded delay: 3.387

    Conclusion: Autoattacks unaffected by skill speed.

    (Unsure if I should report this as a bug, because spell speed is necessarily more powerful than skill speed.)
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  8. #18
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    Shigu Kahz
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    So, what are the stat weights now? Pre 2.1 I read everywhere it was STR > ACC Cap > SS 481 > CRIT > STR > Vit
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  9. #19
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shigu View Post
    So, what are the stat weights now? Pre 2.1 I read everywhere it was STR > ACC Cap > SS 481 > CRIT > STR > Vit
    I can't give you mathematical stat weights, but these are IMO the order of importance for MNK:

    STR > ACC cap > DET > CHR > SS

    DET is so high because it affects AAs the most (a huge chunk of our DPS), and it stacks so well with all the criticals we get from Internal Release and guaranteed Bootshine crit.
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  10. #20
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    Chaosprime Zero
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    I agree, I also value diet more than frit but not to the point where it should be ignored. Thus here is what came up with. May not be the absolute ideal gear, however feel this is what will be aiming for going forward. Any input on this?

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/6982/MNK-CP-BiS
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