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    Gideon Juror
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    Paladin BiS Accessory Reddit Discussion

    Figured some of my brothers and sisters here might want to get into this discussion, mostly dealing with crafted, overmelded accessories as they compare to hero's and allagan accessories. Lots of good maths and theorycrafting regarding block rate, block strength, DEX, STR, and general hp/vit.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ry_discussion/
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    Evana Fisher
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Regarding Gryphon Skin & Rose Gold (earring) accessories, this is how i look at it:
    - It is good upgrade from DL Fending accessories while waiting to use Myth Tomes armor slots upgrade (helm/body/glove/belt/leg/boot)
    - Good time killing to level up crafting jobs while waiting for weekly Myth Cap & Coil reset
    - Possible useful PVP gears
    - Long run can make money
    - IF Allagan/Hero's are a bit superior to Gryphon skin/Rose Gold accessories, ilvl 80 CT accessories are probably slightly superior or equivalent to Gryphon Skin/Rose Gold

    TLDR: Why not get both ?
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    Taneshima Popura
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    You can MT Twintania with full AF2 + Gryphonskins overmelded and perform better in Threat/DPS department. Full iLvl 90 is just overkilling your HP sponge and not being able to generate enough threat to those really good DPS.
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    I made this, but it went unnoticed:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...din-set-Solver
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    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    You can MT Twintania with full AF2 + Gryphonskins overmelded and perform better in Threat/DPS department. Full iLvl 90 is just overkilling your HP sponge and not being able to generate enough threat to those really good DPS.
    Twintania has so many lulls where your DPS aren't fighting her, it would be impossible for any tank capable of surviving to ever not hold threat.
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    Threat issues are apparent only in Turn 4. Especially W2, W3, W5, W6.
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    Gaust Euler
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    There's no "theory crafting" in FFXIV. You just get the highest Parry after you've hit the required Accuracy.

    BiS gear is incredibly boring in this game and you won't get any discernible difference no matter what you use.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 11-26-2013 at 11:39 PM.

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    Veenare Darkwraith
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    There's no "theory crafting" in FFXIV. You just get the highest Parry after you've hit the required Accuracy.

    BiS gear is incredibly boring in this game and you won't get any discernible difference no matter what you use.
    I'm sorry, but that just isn't true. I have gotten quite a few melded accessories and my threat generation is so much better now. Being a giant hp sponge isn't going to do anyone good when your DPS are ripping aggro off of you. STR affects flash potency and of course your DPS. Having tanks that are able to put nice numbers up is useful for so many encounters in coil including Twintania, to think like this is just pure ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    I made this, but it went unnoticed:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...din-set-Solver
    Wasn't unnoticed <3, was playing with this yesterday. But I was particularly sad that you don't account for gryphonskin accessories, and there was nothing on darksteel scutum.
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    Last edited by JohnC2k2; 11-27-2013 at 01:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC2k2 View Post
    Wasn't unnoticed <3, was playing with this yesterday. But I was particularly sad that you don't account for gryphonskin accessories, and there was nothing on darksteel scutum.
    It compares myth/allagan since they're the top tier ilevel equipment at 90. gryphonskin/darklight/darksteel scutum are ilevel 70. While you can meld the crafted ilevel 70 stuff to be possibly stronger than darklight, it won't catch up to ilevel 90 just because of the raw strength/defense differences even if you can get higher secondary stats.

    Although if you want you can always insert more rows to compare between even more equipment pieces.
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