New Characters, No Players

[Naberrie]

This sounds like its going to create more chaos to me. A random dungeon through DF which I'm sure will turn into "This dungeon again?? I'm out" which could also create LONGER queue times IMO.

Considering the rewards will be the same regardless of which dungeon you do, the fact that people are already willing to spam the same dungeons over and over and over, and how easy the low level dungeons are to pretty much sleep through, I don't see it being a problem. Only griping I could see would be, "Well, guess I don't have X skills."

[whilke]

Considering the rewards will be the same regardless of which dungeon you do, the fact that people are already willing to spam the same dungeons over and over and over, and how easy the low level dungeons are to pretty much sleep through, I don't see it being a problem. Only griping I could see would be, "Well, guess I don't have X skills."

Actually, it's probably going to still be faster to cap your tombs doing WP speed runs. Doing a lower level dungeon will take away all your tools used to do a fast run. Unless the tomb reward is crazy, no one is going to do a 40-60 min random low level dungeon for tombs.

[Naberrie]

Actually, it's probably going to still be faster to cap your tombs doing WP speed runs. Doing a lower level dungeon will take away all your tools used to do a fast run. Unless the tomb reward is crazy, no one is going to do a 40-60 min random low level dungeon for tombs.

Good point. They should do something like give a weekly increase to tomes that only applies to ones gained through low level dungeons.

[Fiorana]

I don't know man, it must be bad luck. I just decided to randomly help some bard out with haukke, and the que was instant as a tank.

[Duelle]

duty roulette should solve this

The only way that would solve anything is if the roulette is set to favor low level dungeons and we have tons upon tons of people not leaving said dungeons and decide to stick around to the end.

Not to mention that the roulette bonus is once a day, which means I can queue and help the newbies run one (1) low level dungeon then go back to spamming AK/WP.

A random dungeon through DF which I'm sure will turn into "This dungeon again?? I'm out" which could also create LONGER queue times IMO.

This is also quite possible. Shouldn't ignore the possibility of having the old "WTF occulus/heroic halls of reflection again?!?! /leave" problem we had for a while in WoW.

[cotti]

I think you should have at least read the upcoming changes in 2.1 before blurting his thread.

There'll be the DF roulette, and since the prize is good enough, there'll be more people popping in all dungeons.

[FMElan]

So this has probably been posted before but I didn't see anything that had straightforward answers so here it goes.

My girlfriend creates every single class separately, making each character unique and individual for each respective class.

I have been leveling alts with her on her new characters just to pass the time by and play the game together. She has almost 4 classes to 45 with one at 50.

At the beginning it was rather easy for me to queue up with her in the lower end dungeons and get a group within 5 to 7 minutes...but now the lower end areas are ghost towns, with 5 to 6 people running around. We queued up for Hakkuke Manor (im pretty sure I spelled that wrong) and I did it as my healer. 45 minute queue times just looking for a tank.

Had to run Halitalai (again I'm sure I spelled that wrong) after for her class.. and hour and 12 minutes queue time..i was my healer and girlfriend a dps. She switched over to her Tank class after just to see, and i switched from healer to dps, and it was 45 minutes looking for a healer. Healer and tank combo still took 45 minutes to find 2 DD'S.

Are there any plans to do anything about this? Or for people who payed the extra money to have 8 characters per server just wasting their money. My girlfriend has resorted to fate grinding to 50 instead of doing the main quest line due to the over an hour wait times when she's soloing in the DF when we aren't online. SO instead of being able to do the main story in 2 or 3 weeks at her own pace, at this rate its gonna take much longer.

Thoughts? Don't say to stick to one character, I've tried telling her that. She doesn't like that.

Yes, there are plans to do something about this. That's why dungeon experience is being buffed, to encourage players to level their secondary/tertiarty/whatever class through dungeons, rather than FATEs. It's also why the Duty Roulette system is being implemented, which rewards players for signing up for random low level/endgame dungeons and the trials.

[MageBlack]

Check the patch 2.1 contents. The Duty finder changes as well as the Duty Board and the MIP systems should help with that. My son is the same way.

EDIT:

Also, Yoshi-P has stated he will be relaxing the requirements for entering and completing lower leveled dungeons, as in allowing players to enter with chocobo companions, and/or possibly allowing high levels to come in unsynced.

As well there is a system that will show players what roles are in short supply so you can queue as those roles and receive a bonus reward. They are also increasing the experience gained from dungeons to encourage people to level that way instead of FATE grinding. Changes are coming, no need to panic.

This community's attitude is starting to blow harder than my mother did to my father on the night I was conceived.

When you focus on the negative posts, you get negative vibes. stop replying to them and then they will stop making it worse. its what trolls do, they can't leave things well enough alone. There is enough positive responses to your query that there is no need to even acknowledge the bad. There is a fine line between feeding a troll and becoming one.

[Mikedizzy]

Hopefully they make the REWARD good enough to want to do some of those Dungeons again. I know me and my FC are going to re-do all the dungeons again using new alt classes/jobs just because we did not get to play them all together when the first game out because we were still all getting to know each other and such...I thought more people would be doing stuff like that....I guess that does not totally help your situation but maybe other people would be doing that onesies twosies also. Good luck!

[Johnist]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/124056

Link to the Complete Summary.

Duty Roulette/MIP System

1:07:48
Q: Tell us more about Duty Roulette.
A: *In-game footage of the Duty Roulette is shown in the video.
A: We've added a "Duty Roulette" tab to the Duty Finder. In this tab there are four categories: low level, high level, main scenario, and guildhests. On the right-hand side of the Duty Finder, when you queue up for the roulette, the rewards for completing the duty will be displayed. There will also be a reward bonus displayed, which will be earned when participating as a role that is in short supply. For example, if you are leveling your secondary character, once you hit level 16 the roulette will become available and I think your levels will go up quite quickly if you are a role that's in demand. We will also be adjusting the amount of experience points earned in dungeons in patch 2.1, so I believe dungeons will be a great option for efficient leveling. These bonuses can be earned once a day for each category, so you'll be able to earn a maximum of four bonuses in one day if you participate in all categories.

Low Level

Sastasha
The Tam-Tara Deepcroft
Copperbell Mines
The Bowl of Embers
Halatali
The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak
Haukke Manor, Brayflox's Longstop
The Sunken Temple of Qarn
Cutter's Cry
The Stone Vigil
The Navel
Dzemael Darkhold
The Aurum Vale
The Howling Eye
Cape Westwind

When queuing up for Low Level, you'll be matched for which ever duty is immediately available. This is for both players looking to rechallenge dungeons and also for new players. Although the high level roulette is better for those seeking Allagan tomestones, players who've just hit level 50 but aren't up to challenging higher level duties are welcome to use the low level roulette and save up tomestones at their own pace.

High Level

The Wanderer's Palace
Amdapor Keep
Copperbell Mines (Hard)
Haukke Manor (Hard)
Pharos Sirius

Allagan tomestone bonuses will be granted for all instances after reaching level 50. Until level 50, players will receive only an experience points bonus, which also applies to rest experience.

Main Scenario

Castrum Meridianum
Praetorium

This is a way to reward players for helping others to complete the main scenario.

Guildhest

All available guildhests

Since guildhests are meant to serve as tutorials, no Allagan tomestones will be rewarded for their completion.


* The video introduces the tab showing off the Duty Roulette.

1:14:11
Q: Will you be adding a kick feature for the Duty Finder?
A: Yes, we will. It will be a vote dismiss system, so for example, if someone is AFK or has fallen asleep, a request asking if the player should be removed will be sent to the other members of your party. If all members agree, the person will be removed. However, you won't be able to use this over and over, as it will be limited to once every few hours. Using this as a method for grief tactics falls under harassment, so please be careful.

1:15:31
Q: Do you have any plans to handle players with different objectives attempting to use the Duty Finder?
A: Just as I mentioned in the previous LIVE letter, we will be implementing the Party Finder feature in patch 2.1. You'll be able to search for people with the same objectives and form a party, so please use both the Duty Finder and Party Finder as needed. Also, in regards to level 50 players being matched with lower level players through the Duty Roulette for low level dungeons, we will be implementing the player commendation system to promote the spirit of helping among players.

1:17:12
Q: When you are level synced through the Duty Roulette, you won't be able to set your hotbar beforehand without knowing what duty you're joining. Will there be some sort of preparation time?
A: We'd like you to set this once you are matched by letting other players know you'll need a minute, or by making settings ahead of time for each level spread.

1:18:10
Q: I'm worried that the MVP system will just cause more problems.
A: By calling it the “MVP” system I think there were some misunderstandings, so we've changed its name to the player commendation system. We’d like you all to use this feature as a way to thank a person in your party that really made your experience enjoyable and taught you some strategy or offered helpful tips. Voting is not a requirement, and if you wish to vote when you feel like you've met someone helpful, you can.

Also, we'll be creating achievements for receiving a certain number of player commendations, and you’ll be able to receive titles and rewards. These rewards aren’t meant to be something to actively save for. We’d like you to think of them as a kind of windfall for simply playing and having fun with fellow adventurers.

* The video introduces the player commendation feature and achievements.

1:21:19
Q: Will your bonuses for the day be lost if you leave instances right after joining with the Duty Roulette?
A: Bonuses are received upon clearing instances only. We understand concerns about players leaving when the party lacks DPS, as well as requests from North American players for penalties to be given to people who leave without saying anything, so we are considering adding a penalty.

1:22:23
Q: Will you be able to use the Duty Roulette when forming a party with 2 or 3 members?
A: We’ll be improving the Duty Finder extensively for 2.1, but I’m afraid the ability to participate in parties will take until 2.2.

1:23:04
Q: Are there any restrictions on how many times you can vote or who you can vote on with the player commendation system?
A: In order to vote you will have to be solo, so this feature will only be displayed when you are participating alone.

1:23:56
Q: If I queue up using the Duty Roulette as an arcanist and I'm placed in a dungeon under level 30, will I be able to participate as a healer?
A: While this won't be implemented in patch 2.1, when playing as an arcanist, players will be able to choose whether they wish to queue as a healer or DPS class when using the duty finder.

*The original question was “If I queue up to the Duty Roulette as a scholar, will I be able to participate as a healer?” but how Yoshi-p answered is for the case if player queued up as an arcanist.

As of now, if the player queues up to the Duty Rouletter as a scholar and is matched in a level 30 or below dungeon, they will participate as a healer. If they queued up as an arcanist, they will participate as a DPS. However they will be able to select which role to participate in the future update.

1:24:23
Q: Will it be possible to participate in dungeons that I’ve unlocked but have yet to challenge even once with the Duty Roulette?
A: Yes. Within a single category, as long as you have at minimum two duties unlocked, you’ll be able to use the Duty Roulette. Whether you’ve cleared them or not is not a requirement, so you’ll be able to use it for dungeons you have yet to clear.

1:26:35
Q: Will you be adding the dhorme chimera, the hydra, and the Binding Coil of Bahamut to the Duty Finder?
A: We won’t be adding this in patch 2.1. Both the dhorme chimera and hydra are part of a system that is outside of the Duty Finder, but we are discussing adjusting this, so it may be changed in the not too distant future. We have no immediate plans to change the Binding Coil of Bahamut, but this doesn’t mean that we'll never do it. Using the party recruitment feature will make participation much easier, so please be sure to use this in patch 2.1.