Over Crowded Wards (A Serious Discussion, Not a Plea for an AH)

[AngryNixon]

@AngryNixon

Yeah when I describe what I think should be done it sounds simple but will they utilize it? Dunno.. There are more then one way to fix this. I don't think they will abolish this Ward system for a AH. Too much groundwork was laid and its salvagable with the new Search function.

I agree. I don't think they'd ever get rid of it. I'm personally a fan of an AH system (Not necessarily as conceived in WoW or FFXI) but even then I wouldn't advocate scrapping the MW system. I'd just say put an AH system (at some point, definitely post 1.20) in along side the MW and leave the MW alone. Let it inevitably become unpopular and underused on its own.

I also agree that what you and I describe seems superficially straightforward but I don't pretend to know what's involved or how complicated it might actually be. I can only say that at this point they've "fixed" retainers simply dropping out of the wards constantly but have, in doing so, opened the can of worms from the other end. This meaning simply that the net effect in terms of improvement is either jack, shit, or squat if you prefer.

[Viridiana]

The problem (as has been argued ad nauseum) is that all the wards are stored on one server that has to track everything. Splitting it into more wards won't help at all unless something is done about the stability of the server over-all. Not rendering the retainers and letting us buy from the search menu, though, would solve the stability and usability issues in one fell swoop.

[KasuTera]

This is just so frustrating... no wards accepts any new retainers...
Sorry for not commenting on previous posts or proposing any new ideas, I just need to somehow express this frustration.

[Fuzball]

It is very upsetting If you can't sell things, you can't make gil... and if you can't make gil, the game seriously hits a brick wall unless you level every craft along with your main ;_;

The capacity problems on Selbina are beyond horrible, and seeing things like the image from the 6th post make it worthy of a random /fume

[CatchaFire420]

Is Lindblum really getting that bad? I haven't tried to sell anything in a few weeks, though, even back then, Battlecraft was overflowing.

Isn't that the nature of our problem? Because of the hassle and congestion, the economy suffers. I'm with you its pointless to fight for a marketplace that punishes your efforts in every way you try. We shouldn't have to try, let me have the source code and I will set up a real market place named eCoerthas.

[Neko_Yanagi]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Market-Wards.

Still think this is the best solution.

Just set up a single ward, with an NPC to talk to and search for items, then you just summon the Retainer you want to buy from to you. Just like when you summon your own retainer, noone needs to see the summoned retainer besides you.

Wish more people would go to this thread and post, wondering if it's just too hard too understand, but the CURRENT market wards system, even with they link the wards and spread out the population will be a pain in the ass for the devs for years, and it will not last.

I did read that thread and I agree is a good solution. However, I see that being a long term solution, setting something like that up may take some time. My solutions were short term, quick fixes. And more importantly in this thread, I'm pleading for a little social responsibility (a bit of a joke, I know, but I had to try). The wards may end up being over crowded no matter what we do, but I seriously think that we can minimize the severity of it if we could just take a few small steps to better the situation.

Here's a screenshot of the issue:



Note that one person has about a dozen shops set up, all with similar names. I doubt any single person can have so much to sell, but there's really no room for anybody else.

That was EXACTLY the kind of thing I'm talking about. (To be honest, that may have been Gilseller/RMT retainers, but regular players do this kind of thing too). And also the fact that people leave retainers up with stuff in their bazaar's that's not for sale (just using bazaar as storage, with stuff for 999,999,999), or not checking their retainer's often to take them down if they are no longer selling anything is a big part of the problem too. These were very temporary solution that we could do RIGHT NOW, and that doesn't need anything from SE. It would lighten the severity of the situation, but definitively not resolve it.

But I guess I may have been asking for too much, because since my post the wards have become even worse. Every ward is full. I think seeing the wards fill sent everyone into panic mode so they all make sure to leave retainers out whenever and wherever they can get an open spot.. So much for social responsibly.

Then there is the fact that not everyone checks the forums, not everyone will check this section, and there is no real way to get the majority of players to understand how they can help this situation. I must have been delusional to suggest a solution that required something from the players, because it looks as if that would never happen.

Sorry for the pessimism. And thanks to everyone who has chimed in and has given their 2 cents.

[Fuzball]

Isn't that the nature of our problem? Because of the hassle and congestion, the economy suffers. I'm with you its pointless to fight for a marketplace that punishes your efforts in every way you try. We shouldn't have to try, let me have the source code and I will set up a real market place named eCoerthas.

Yes!! I can't count how many times I've glared at my monitor and thought "10 lines SE, just give me 10 lines and it's fixed..."