AF+1 or Relic+1?

[saber_alter]

depends on how well you can hold hate. relic +1 is our biggest enmity building upgrade, but if you can hold hate no problem its not really necessary.

i would just go get your myth armor. higher stat upgrade and you don't have to sit in a tin can for as long. (not to mention allagan sword is BiS for pallys >.<)

[ZohnoReecho]

Depends on the job

[Shneibel]

you can get the cultana on PLD to +1 (no shield, just sword) and then get af 1.5, but for the rest relic+1 is a wise choice to get first. I go with the AF route before get relic +1 and trust me when I say it is a bad choice.

Alt for PLD, you can get AF 1.5 (head/gloves/body) before get relic +1, PLD can manager to tank with ilvl80 for a period

[Nahara]

If you're looking at getting the myth gear just to get out of the DL gear, I would say +1 your Relic Weapon and then wait until Crystal Tower gets released and pick up your AF2.

Unless you're a Paladin, because apparently the Valor chest and head pieces are BiS for Paladins.

[Evangela]

A piece of AF2 gives me more stat.

so I'll upgrade my relic after I got all AF2.

[Dano]

weapon is arguably the better investment, increases DPS directly better than your armor pieces. You don't get i90 weapons until turn 5, you can get i90 armor and accessories from Turn 1-4. So it's pretty clear which one's a wiser investment

[Nihility]

What's all this AF+1 and AF1.5 stuff all about?
It's relic armor ripped straight out of FFXI, shouldn't be any confusion at all. It even has the same names and in several cases same looks

but in any case the relic weapon+1 upgrade is pretty much the biggest upgrade to any class. perhaps the shield first for paladin even though the sword upgrade does help threat a lot?
and even in the case of a bard even though one piece of the relic armor is statistically a bigger upgrade you'll still see a more noticeable difference from weapon

Just good to always keep in mind the damage rating of your weapon is the single most important statistic on any of your gear by a very wide margin

[Sasagawa]

depends what gear you have already and class

For tank

Scenario 1 - DL only and relic weapon

- I would suggest saving for the relic body first as this will give you the most vit return for your myth
- Next I would then go for the head piece
- now you should have a decent amount of HP to do most endgame and a few coil levels
- Next you have a choice to upgrade shield or wait and upgrade pants
- after upgrade gauntlets and or boots.
- finally I would upgrade the one lvl 60 ring you have.
- last I would start replacing DL accessories.

Scenario 2

Run coil 1 a few times see what drops you get and upgrade according to best investment.

All in all it depends on 2 main factors

1. how often do you run coil 1 or 2 and win.
2. how many myth tomes have you got and how long you are willing to wait.

[Tribunus]

Basically if your doing coil, specifically T4/5 then the relic+1 is the best choice.

Only reason its needed or desired is because we miss crystal tower and ilvl80 items, if we had this then the choice between AF2 or a relic+1 would be moot.

[Zakalwe]

Assuming the OP was asking this question in regards to his PLD, here is a thread on this topic from the tanking forums:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rade-for-tanks