+1 relic weakest upgrade for tanks?

[wlakiz]

So i just read a post in dungeon section where a healer was saying that his tank was geared because he has full dl and +1 relic. I am thinking to myself: Why would +1 relic even be a sign of 'good' gear for tank? It takes 900 myth token that does not add armor, provides minimal vit and defensive stats upgrade. The +2 weapon damage doesn't change the field in hate holding or provide any additional survivability .

I am more inclined to think that a tank in full dl with AF2 chest and pants being more relevantly geared than a full dl with AF2 and +1 relic.

What do you guys think?

[zdub303]

Weapon damage is worth quite a bit. For threat generation I think +1 was worth it. Also, the dps increase doesn't hurt either. With Curtana +1 and 366 strength, one of the guys in coil last night was parsing me at 120-140 dps (with shield oath on!). For turn 4 that extra bit of dps is quite nice. (I understand parsers aren't the best but still, he's parsing me at a not-insignificant amount of damage and if its even close to true that's pretty nice).

I won't say Curtana +1 is necessarily worth it over something else, I don't know. I just personally decided to wait on myth armor and try for some allagan first (chest drops turn 1 which would be really nice to not have to buy with tomes).

[Seidaku]

It depends on content and class I think. Obviously Warrior has better threat generation than a Paladin but lower overall defense so a Paladin going for the weapon maybe that is huge whereas a Warrior would opt more for the armor.

However, I would never fault a Warrior for getting their weapon either since it would also be a very large upgrade. It is just a matter of perspective.

[SpookyGhost]

Basically, before Turn 4 you don't really need it, Turn 4 and beyond it is a really beneficial upgrade that can make or break a run. Possibly not so much for WAR, though I imagine it'd still be better than regular Bravura for that turn. Otherwise vitality and accuracy are what you want, so prioritizing AF2 pieces before Turn 4 is a good idea. Hard to plan for RNG drops in Coil so best to just upgrade what helps the most for where you're at.

[wlakiz]

The point is +1 is 900 myth.. Yes it 'helps' but 900 myths is more helpful in af2 than relic.

[zdub303]

At the very least you should be getting Holy Shield +1 for the raw mitigation... so in reality its 600 myth tomes for Curtana +1 vs 600 myth in AF2.

[Phreak]

If your static group isn't very good I would focus on upgrading your armor as you probably won't have to worry about DPS riding your ass in threat and won't be hitting Turn 4 for a few weeks.

My group was a random pick up between people in our FC, most of us had Relic+1 and full DL with a few people behind that gear curve and managed to clear Turn 4 after only 3 raid days which was about 9 hours of raiding so spending my myth on the chest would have put me 3 weeks out to get my +1 and on Turn 4 and 5 our DPS are insane, even as a WAR, they are right behind me.

[Phreak]

At the very least you should be getting Holy Shield +1 for the raw mitigation... so in reality its 600 myth tomes for Curtana +1 vs 600 myth in AF2.

The stat upgrade from the shield isn't that large in that's what your going to argue, shields souley effect the effectiveness of block they don't add any base line defense, the allagan shield also drops from Turn 1 I believe so you could end up 'wasting' 300 myth fairly early in your Coil career.

Though TBH ALL the myth purchases outside of the Ring/Weapon are just whims, you can clear to Turn 5 in DL without much trouble so any Myth gear just 'help's but in no way bars you from not being able to complete the turns.

[Kal-El]

My sword glows though..

[Phreak]

My sword glows though..

Out of all the reasons to purchase an upgrade, this is the strongest case.