FFXIV has lost it's magic

[Babydoll]

I think this game needs more open world content..it would help a lot! Also...since the devs took so many things from other MMO...why won't they take some good things from their own previous game, FFXI? Things like sky and sea..where you have a group of friends and you farm pop items and pop NM/HNM together...or things we even had in 1.0, NM that spawn at night/day or certain times like that goat NM!

I'm not saying bring back the HNM...that stuff was too ridiculous imho lol but give us something challenging and difficult to do with our FC in the open world! >.< and before anyone says it..yeah I know the primal stuff is coming, but we need something more then just that heh.

[Comicbookguy]

[QUOTE=Meklore;1560956]Just my 2 gil


Yeah, that must be it. When I first started playing games it was on an Atari 2600, started FF on NES in 1990 when I was 29 years old, played all the FF series as well as many, many other games and you know what? FF XI was still magical to me, hmmm.



It has nothing to do with the amount of time people have to play, if they only have 2 hours to play a night it doesn't matter which game they choose to waste their 120 minutes playing./QUOTE]


I agree. I was 33 years old when I played FFXI and it was exciting. It was my 4th MMORPG after EQ, EQOA, AC, DOAC...on top of tons of MUD I played on BB service paying $3.99 a hour. Everything is made too easy today. We don't want the stupid time sink, that's why I quit FFXI, too much grinding when it first came out...but make it exciting like having Ghost popping up at night and having to run or die!!! Death is exciting.

[Trancery]

Kids want everything easy. They want to be CEO and make $150k a year when they graduate with their English degree

LOL nice. I'm 28 and I'd say I'm definitely in the generation of self-made wanna be easy millionaires and entrepreneurs.

[Welsper59]

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As someone who claims to be of the old-school, it's a shame that you don't understand one crucial thing about MMORPG's. They're not for everyone. The reason? It requires a certain mindset (and dare I say, devotion) to really get the full experience out of them. Once you get out of that mindset, you're no longer going to enjoy the games in the way you should. More often than not, this means doing things with friends. Mind you, this isn't exclusive to doing endgame content only. If you're rushing to the end without finding any means to enjoy the process, you're not playing as intended. If that's enough of a social interaction for some people, then that works just fine. But the moment you find it lacking, is the moment that you're no longer of the right mind for these games.

Now, I agree that the nostalgia bit is quite rose-tinted, but that's because it's how it should be. That sense of exploration can only happen so many times (typically once per game), but the mindset that you have when you played those games in the past was the right one. Most of us are all about the rush these days. You know what brings me back to the old rose-tinted sense of fun in FFXIV? Doing things with friends I've known for a long time. But wait! Is it really considered a false/vague truth (rose-tinted, nostalgia, etc) if I'm experiencing the same level of fun in a new game by doing that same activity? Furthermore, it's in something that people would consider to be nothing but a "time sink" (leveling, gathering (fishing), etc). Time sinks may not always represent the difficulty That might be something for folks to ponder.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that people who are not in that mindset should not be playing. That's not even remotely what I'm claiming. I'm just saying that things may not be as bad as people make it out to be. If something is not enjoyable to you, maybe it's just... not for you. The time consuming aspect of something can actually be a challenge, just not one that people care for (including myself). You play MMORPG's for that sense of team work and accomplishment. The longer something takes, the better that sense of accomplishment feels. Seriously, if this applies to you in any way, think about times that you have to save up for something. Maybe you want to get a new car, but can't afford it for the next year or two of penny pinching. There's that arbitrary sense of sentiment attached to newly obtained things that take long to get. Think about how great it feels to obtain something you spent so long getting. These days, you really don't get that because it's so much faster to obtain practically everything.

People really shouldn't look so negatively on things that take long to get, challenging or not. Though something challenging is only that way once... when it's actually completed, that challenge is diminished, if not completely non-existent. It's a legit concern when it's something mandatory that takes weeks/months/years (i.e. impossible to get around to just continue playing), but there's rarely anything like that to be found these days.

[Maxthunder]

I always like the saying in FFXI (No matter what level you are, There will always be a rabbit that can kick your butt).

Thats one thing I loved about XI, you never new if the next mob was gonna take you down. It was funny when it happened to lol.

[Grailer]

ok lets make game harder so you die when you leave town ... now you see all those posts about how hard titan is ? times that by 100,000+ yep you get what im getting at ?

[Baneus]

Well you know what they say - if the magic is gone you should probably move on.

[Azurymber]

ok lets make game harder so you die when you leave town ... now you see all those posts about how hard titan is ? times that by 100,000+ yep you get what im getting at ?

Except titan isn't hard. Titan is broken
And the thread with 680 likes, kind of demonstrates that: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-fix-something.

[Nichigo]

the main problem with these types of discussions is that some people do not realize that people in general do not have as much time to play MMORPGs, it is why the "WOW" type work so well.

This.

Up to this point, FFXI is still my favorite MMO experience. However, i ended up having to quit due to lack of time to commit on my part. If it was simply game content clearing that took alot of time, that would have been fine. But the ECONOMY forced you to invest LOTS of time in other things (like standing around for hours waiting for an NM to pop that you might not grab and even if you did it might not drop that item you desired). it's funny that no one ever brings up the economy in these FFXI recollections...because that was a major factor in the time sink the game became.

I agree with almost everything said here about the FFXIV vs. FFXI comparisons. I do wish that FFXIV was more memorable and that it was more difficult. But I do appreciate the fact that I can actually play it while maintaining a life outside the game.

Discovering new places in FFXI was great. The first time you did it. Then when you had to spend 30-45 minutes running through these places just to get to another place where you'd spend an hour yelling for party members then another 4-5 hours grinding on the same mob...that "adventure" doesn't seem so attractive anymore.

[Grailer]

Except titan isn't hard. Titan is broken
And the thread with 680 likes, kind of demonstrates that: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-fix-something.

titan isn't broken I have my relic , whats your excuse