For those who want to ask Yoshi about FFXI styled endgame content

[ArcheustheWise]

I think the main issue at the moment needs to be more content to do thats NOT instance/dungeon/fate/gear grind. Such as that "golden saucer" idea he once stated... we need more things to do, not mindlessly grinding.

THEN we can worry about all the points you made.

[whilke]

We've been over this - This isn't WoW, GW2, SWTOR, Tera, Knight Online, (Korean MMOx20) either yet XIV plays exactly like them in many regards. It's more along the lines of content that isn't designed for one use like a lot of XIV's content is currently.

But all of those MMOs are either 3rd/4th gen MMOs, or kept innovating themselves to stay current with end game.

FFXI is a copy of a 1st gen MMO (EverQuest), and no one uses those ideas anymore. We've grown past them.

[RagnaBahamut]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/38100 and also pne thing FFXI has new pvp called a 'Monipulators' which you can play the monster Behemoth or Cerberus

[CruxisSeptentrion]

I really liked the BCNM system from FFXI (aside from grinding seals and only being able to get certain spell scrolls from them).

They should add more Guildhests with a variety of fights and better exp rewards to expand on the concept.

[HorrorStory]

I'd support a few things from FFXI, but not too much. No more ridiculous spawn windows, no more unneeded lockouts, no more (added) classism, no more obtuse gameplay implementations...basically whatever they choose to add would have to be altered to the point where it wouldn't resemble its source material. BCNMs, especially, couldn't work the way they do in this game. Not a lot of folks will want to grind out seals just for access to a fight. It's quite restrictive.

This feels like a 'you got what you wanted, but not in the way you wanted it' situation the topic is addressing. If ideas from FFXI were to be used, it wouldn't look anything like it did before.

[VahnValbosce]

But all of those MMOs are either 3rd/4th gen MMOs, or kept innovating themselves to stay current with end game.

FFXI is a copy of a 1st gen MMO (EverQuest), and no one uses those ideas anymore. We've grown past them.

That doesn't mean that 1st gen MMO's didnt do something right. If they didn't do anything right then MMO's wouldnt have become so popular. Obviously we haven't "Grown past" them, because people are asking for things that were in 1st gen MMO's again. So far the amount of "Lack of Content" "Beat game in a few days now nothing to do" and "Please lets have more content like XI cuz it was a long lasting game and felt fulfilling" Threads on the forums have been ever more increasingly about those topics. Also the highest liked question on the forum: General Questions for Letter to Producer live, IS specifically about when they are going to add content that is similar to XI.

I'll post it for you to see here and so that people can also like this too, so we can hear an answer from Yoshi so he actually considers it. --->>> LINK <<<---

[KraggyKor]

The point is, most of XI's content was open world

Actually, no, it wasn't, as your lists show .. also most of what WAS open world was only playable if your LS had a better claimbot that the others.

Off the top of my head, only Campaign was truly 'open' content that wasn't instanced, playable by all without cheating.

[LiadansWhisper]

I don't want to play XI. If I wanted to play XI, I'd be subbed to XI. I've never had a desire to play XI, and the idea of having to share endgame content bosses with an entire server strikes me as dumb as rocks. Maybe for non-essential occasional "World bosses," but not for serious content that I actually care about. The idea is, quite frankly, stupid.

[Malamasala]

And as a result the world on 11 actually felt alive with groups of other players. And there was a real sense of "we are all in this together". Something you just don't get on the modern theme-park MMO, which is largely sharded with everyone doing their own thing. 14 feels more like a single-player game with a co-op mode attached to it. The FATE system is a poor substitute.

Which FFXI did you play? The one I played everyone went to exp at the same places, so over 80% of the world was empty. And the moment people got the option to level faster in Abyssea, or keep partying outside, everyone moved to Abyssea because they didn't care at all about the open world. I'd be surprised if there is more than 10 people per server who are obsessed with FFXI.

[Shiyo]

Which FFXI did you play? The one I played everyone went to exp at the same places, so over 80% of the world was empty. And the moment people got the option to level faster in Abyssea, or keep partying outside, everyone moved to Abyssea because they didn't care at all about the open world. I'd be surprised if there is more than 10 people per server who are obsessed with FFXI.

Everyone was exping in crawlers nest and garlaige when I was exping in altepa, quicksand caves, gustav tunnel, east ronfaure[s] etc getting constant chain 5 with zero competition(crawlers nest and garlaige were PACKED with parties competing) and leveling much faster.

When I ran around when not leveling in a party or LFP I'd run through random outdoor dungeons and kill every mob I saw , all their drops were nice money most of the time. The game felt huge, epic, living, and awesome.

Don't reply to me though.