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    GodKiller's Avatar
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    Zero Godkiller
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 50

    War- Str vs Vit?

    Hey guys! I'm about to get my war to 50 and wondering about whether or not to go full STR or VIT.
    With STR it's easier to hold aggro, and with a War a lot of HP is restored with the more damage done.. So that's seems like a good choice, plus DPS from all classes helps, a tank that does no damage is no use
    But
    A Tank is basically a punching bag.. So Having the HP to take the hits is important, plus the more VIT the higher the gain from defiance.
    So I understand some of the basics behind both, but I'm not sure what the right choice is. Like if a war has DL and AF2 then is putting points into STR the right idea? Or should you always invest into HP?
    Any help is appreciated, I've read a few different guides from people but I'm curious what individuals have to say? So links are appreciated but personal opinions or strategies is what I'm hoping for!
    Thanks!!
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    Ok so basically there is pure vit which is a known value of about like 14 hp per point so most people go full vit. Strength gives I think about 3.6% damage boost so most people will take it for the parry increase and to help buff attack power which scales some of our heals. And then lastly based on your race for example if you were a highlander u could go the 10Dex and 20 vit or 20 strength option. There is a poster that has a guide on here about mining and maxing based on when you have all your gear. Just remember you can always go and reset your stats for 10000seals from your grandcompany so don't sweat it. So for now I would go pure strength or pure vit like 600 more Hp.
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    M'aqaqa Qimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Hate isnt a problem and DPSing isnt our first duty, so i suggest you to go full VIT.

    Once you get rich enough to afford HQ crafted gear and geared enough (AF2 or allagan) to have more HP than you will ever need you might trade VIT for STR and/or DEX.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...zation-for-WAR.
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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    VIT. STR makes almost 0 difference in self-healing and mitigation from Parry.
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    Fayhd Apollo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Go Full VIT for point allocation then just play with Accessories to mix STR or VIT depending on content. At least you won't have to spend seals to change your allocation then.
    In current content I'm doing, I aim for 6500HP outside a party which allows me to have 2 STR acc.

    It's also because I play most of the time with a scholar so since my HP is dropping at a slower pace (and they have less bigger heal busrt than WHM), you benefit from bigger IB and second wind.
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    Kal El
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    STR works in tiers so that 30 points may not even get you over the next tier. And your damage may go up by 1% if you're lucky.

    Not really worth it.

    Full VIT all the way.
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    Y'sarel Khai
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    Marauder Lv 50
    30 STR nets you about a 7% increase in damage dealt. VIT either helps you stay alive or does nothing depending on the content at hand and your gear. If you routinely do Titan and Coil on your WAR I would recommend VIT, or if you speedrun dungeons on WAR and find yourself wishing for a bit more HP. Otherwise go for STR. A bit of extra damage, parry reduction, and self-healing isn't huge in a party context, but it's better than stacking a stat that's doing nothing at all for you.
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El View Post
    STR works in tiers so that 30 points may not even get you over the next tier. And your damage may go up by 1% if you're lucky.
    Has anyone actually checked this? The only "evidence" I've seen that the mitigation contributions are incremental integer gains are the floating combat text, which show only whole numbers. It's entirely possible that the game tracks the smaller gains but the FCT just rounds it off and no one notices because the variability of damage is greater than even the 1% incremental gains that we see. Unless a dev explicitly said that it works in 1% gains and that there are no incremental gains in between or there is a *massive* amount of *highly* controlled data, there's no real way to *prove* that there are no mitigation gains outside of the tiers.
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    Rage Bladerunner
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I've gone full STR, continued throughout the coils as full STR, and swapped 6 points into DEX after clearing turn 5 merely to ease my concern about missing a butcher's block once.

    As mentioned in my guide the actual "gain" from stacking either tends to be negligible anyway you cut it. Vit favors encounters where you end up moving or focusing less on your rotations and more on positioning and STR favors encounters where you're free to stand there and smack a boss up, slightly, with the trade off being 600 hp your healers have as extra to be responsible for or STR's 490 hp when your pool is over 8.2K regardless in regard to the 20% self healing burst with VIT compared to the 22% with STR.
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    Misenklauph Drakkfhur
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    I went full VIT until I was about Lv. 40 or so. Then a FC member suggested I got STR, I've been full STR ever since. It was better for me for hate purposes. Now I've got relic, I don't have hate issues, I might be able to afford to switch back to VIT and have less enmity, but I can't be bothered to spend the 10,000 seals on it to respec. If/when I encounter a situation where it's necessary, I can & will. Nothing has really indicated to me that where/how I have spent my points is really making a difference. That being said, I'm iLevel 70+, and most of my gear is giving my STR and VIT, I might already be passed the threshold where people rumour I have a diminishing return on the value of VIT. Who knows.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2237443/]
    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

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