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    Quality > Quantity

    There are a lot of threads requesting adjustments to animations, visuals, character butt models, as well as additions to classes, races, clothing, weapons, etc. I'd like to point out that there are many threads focused on quality gameplay and overall enhancement of the game's systems and performance.

    I hope that the community does not focus too much on additional content and visuals and forget about quality gameplay. If you have or agree with a thread that focuses on quality performance and gameplay, please feel free to link it here or discuss what quality gameplay means to you.

    I'd personally like to see the below threads get acknowledgement from the devs, it seems the community has already acknowledged it quite a bit w/ over 160+ pages total, but has been ignored by SE:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ev-Response%29
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-fix-something.
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    I was just about to post in the other topic: "I guarantee this person makes this a new topic...' and here we are. The reason SE "ignores it" is because it's not affecting EVERYONE, which means there's other variables than: "It's SE's fault."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I was just about to post in the other topic: "I guarantee this person makes this a new topic...' and here we are. The reason SE "ignores it" is because it's not affecting EVERYONE, which means there's other variables than: "It's SE's fault."
    It's a generalized topic. I posted an example that I care about.
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    Last edited by Knosis; 11-03-2013 at 01:09 AM.

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    I don't get it, they can't fix those issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    I don't get it, they can't fix those issues.
    Sure they can. If other game developers can, I'm sure SE can also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Sure they can. If other game developers can, I'm sure SE can also.
    What are they fixing? Just because lots of people get lag in a game doesn't mean it is the game makers fault. I mean think about it. If it was something wrong with the game then wouldn't it effect everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    What are they fixing? Just because lots of people get lag in a game doesn't mean it is the game makers fault. I mean think about it. If it was something wrong with the game then wouldn't it effect everyone?
    The typical counter-argument to this is: "You're naive if you think an issue has to affect everyone in order for it to be a problem with the game." - Yes people legitimately counter what you say with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixmp View Post
    What are they fixing? Just because lots of people get lag in a game doesn't mean it is the game makers fault. I mean think about it. If it was something wrong with the game then wouldn't it effect everyone?
    The 0.3s positioning updating on the server for one. It was 0.5s in the beta, got lowered because of the issues with people not able to get out of skills. They just reduced the problem, but not enough. Heck, they can make the client handle a tiny bit more.

    And it is effecting everyone. Run and cast a spell, does it cancel fast? People can actually cast 1 sec skills on the run without being interrupted. And that is with a ping in the 100ms.

    EDIT: BTW, I don't have the problem on Titan and things like that. But it still effect me when trying to cancel casts, and other such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    The typical counter-argument to this is: "You're naive if you think an issue has to affect everyone in order for it to be a problem with the game." - Yes people legitimately counter what you say with that.
    Games with problems with netcode does usually effect all or none though. As lag can be caused by so many factors i find it cringe worthy that so many people jump straight at SE shouting "FIX IT"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    The 0.3s positioning updating on the server for one. It was 0.5s in the beta, got lowered because of the issues with people not able to get out of skills. They just reduced the problem, but not enough. Heck, they can make the client handle a tiny bit more.

    And it is effecting everyone. Run and cast a spell, does it cancel fast? People can actually cast 1 sec skills on the run without being interrupted. And that is with a ping in the 100ms.

    EDIT: BTW, I don't have the problem on Titan and things like that. But it still effect me when trying to cancel casts, and other such things.
    Oh i see the problem now. People running about screaming lag was just making me thing people were suffering from high pings


    Just to add, i started casting a spell and cancelled it. almost instantly. I am in the UK i would guess my ping is probably around the 80-110 mark
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    Last edited by Sixmp; 11-03-2013 at 02:17 AM.

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