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    Player
    Yuhart's Avatar
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    Yuhart Madik
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Anyone else feel like Inner Beast should have just had the 300% increased higher instead of reduced to 100% and given the dmg reduction ala PLD?

    It doesn't sound so beastly now.

    Plus it would work really well with the new Holmgang to assist healers in getting us back up to 100% HP before the effect drops.

    Maybe increase the CD on it for balance purposes.
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    ValcKyard's Avatar
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    Valc Kyard
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuhart View Post
    Anyone else feel like Inner Beast should have just had the 300% increased higher instead of reduced to 100% and given the dmg reduction ala PLD?

    It doesn't sound so beastly now.

    Plus it would work really well with the new Holmgang to assist healers in getting us back up to 100% HP before the effect drops.

    Maybe increase the CD on it for balance purposes.

    It does not but my inner beast hit for around 750 regular with berserk and 1150 crit still pretty beast dmg for a tank.
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Caar View Post
    Well it will probably be if the target will get the effect of holmgang which its not possible on most bosses
    Dunno if someone pointed this out, but if you use holmgang on bosses, YOU still get holmganged, and thus I would assume the >1HP thing would kick in. The boss will still resist though.
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    Bladder Splatter
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Steel Cyclone is still laughably trite for a lvl 50 skill that requires stack consumption.

    Compared to the PLD 50 AOE which is glorious, leaves a dot and requires no stacks of anything.

    This will probably keep me playing PLD at the moment, but is largely the reason I maxed them both for ease of alteration (because I do enjoy the warrior otherwise)
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Basjohn View Post
    Steel Cyclone is still laughably trite for a lvl 50 skill that requires stack consumption.

    Compared to the PLD 50 AOE which is glorious, leaves a dot and requires no stacks of anything.

    This will probably keep me playing PLD at the moment, but is largely the reason I maxed them both for ease of alteration (because I do enjoy the warrior otherwise)
    Scorn and Spirts being off GCD are the only things that keep pld even kind of interesting for me.
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Basjohn View Post
    Steel Cyclone is still laughably trite for a lvl 50 skill that requires stack consumption.

    Compared to the PLD 50 AOE which is glorious, leaves a dot and requires no stacks of anything.

    This will probably keep me playing PLD at the moment, but is largely the reason I maxed them both for ease of alteration (because I do enjoy the warrior otherwise)
    Agreed. Steel Cyclone should either have a HP recovery attached to it or throw out a DOT.
    It is pretty weak compared to Overpower for Enmity generation.
    The only thing I find it useful for is when you have Berserk + Internal Release and Bloodbath stacked on a huge pull. If you are already Infuriated you can do 2 Steel Cyclones hitting up to 600 per mob.

    Pretty excited for the changes that are coming though. It looks like Warrior will still take some skill to play, but also a good tank.
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    Gidion Wolfbite
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Caar View Post
    Well it will probably be if the target will get the effect of holmgang which its not possible on most bosses
    When using the skill. Reads to me, Doesn't matter if a boss is effected or not, kind of like the current incarnation. Boss may not get the effect, but you still become stuck in place, awesome!

    As a Veteran Warrior, I am disappointed that this will probably make WAR way too spotlight...I liked that WAR was unpopular, with only the dedicated and few playing this class well. It was satisfying, rolling up and Tanking everything when the general community would be blinded by PLD.
    The way I read this, WAR will be the new "it" tank.
    PLD survivability has been given a run for it's money. We now have survivability and the healing bonuses. It seems we will be able to better heal ourselves, as the whole point was.
    I am glad a lot of the abilities have had uses tweaked and pumped up, it will be fun to utilize the changes and improve on the old methods.
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    Lhei Fox
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Wow nice change! sorry paladin's its good tank class but warrior has been from 1.0 my favorite class this options might even make me happy war again.
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    King Drako
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by KumaAkuma View Post
    Holmgang
    - When using this skill, a player's HP cannot be reduced lower than 1.

    Is this for the War or the target? Does this mean War can not die for the duration of Holmgang?
    This is awesome!!! Depending on the duration, This is on par with Hallow Ground.
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