bards fix "WALL OF TEXT"

[Bardo]

I'd recommend a 2s cast on Windbite and Venomous Bite rather than add something to HS.

A Bard should still be generally mobile -- but if they don't stop to cast for about ~5s every 20s, their DPS would drop. That sounds about right. Having to stand still and cast for 5/8ths of BRD attacks would just suck, and I like to bunny hop while I attack.

You could even bump the base cast on WB/VB to 2.5s and add 20 more direct damage potency to the two attacks.

Wouldn't throwing a cast time on ANY of our main GCD abilities prevent us from weaving Buffs or Bloodletter every time those abilities are used?
So not only would it nerf our mobility, it would be a straight nerf to our damage potential as well?
I don't think that's a very good fix.

Why not just modify the "Increased Action Damage" traits to only work when we're standing still?
It's super simple, doesn't change our playstyle, but still nerfs our damage by a good amount when avoiding mechanics.

[Lecreuset]

Video about 2.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...-_vg#t=4627.25
here's the translation thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554

At around 16:50 he mentions about the bard being just a little too strong with heavy emphasis on "little". So really, I don't think they're gonna do something drastic and kill the Bard's dps

[mythicrose]

Video about 2.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...-_vg#t=4627.25
here's the translation thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554

At around 16:50 he mentions about the bard being just a little too strong with heavy emphasis on "little". So really, I don't think they're gonna do something drastic and kill the Bard's dps

Didn't you see, hear, read about the computer animated Chiken Little movie from a few years ago? Chiken Little tried to tell the whole town something was wrong...the sky was falling. The whole town rediculed him. Then all hell broke loose as aliens invaded. Non bards believe nothing major will happen brushing off the "little" statement as no more than chiken little exclaiming the sky is falling. From the bard perspective, it's full on alien invasion time.

[GoodApolloIV]

The game labels Bard as ranged DPS, not support. Bard have very low potency attacks as it is. People bring bards along for DPS, you que into Duty Finder as DPS, not support. The utility of bards is limited as in parties with skilled members your songs are almost never used. We do have 100% uptime, but there are measures taken to ensure that we are not overpowered. Base damage is very low. Bard limit break is useless, and the class as a whole kind of falls off at endgame. Do no change the mobility, do not give bards cast bars. The damage output is low. We are not a support class. All of the people saying bards are need to go home. And if people could dodge plumes on titan, a legitimately good class wouldn't be getting nerfed. They are already going to make things easier for melee DPS in 2.1. Is that not enough to ask for? The only think i could POSSIBLY see them doing to make bard perfectly balanced is not allowing us to move during heavy shot. As it is our spam move.

[Woodberry]

Video about 2.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...-_vg#t=4627.25
here's the translation thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554

At around 16:50 he mentions about the bard being just a little too strong with heavy emphasis on "little". So really, I don't think they're gonna do something drastic and kill the Bard's dps

DPS is relative to other classes. Melee is getting buffed, bards are getting nerfed. Since bards are already behind, this doesn't bode well. Whatever though, bards will still have decent support for learning content.

[Sapphic]

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BRD has support abilities. With the structure of FFXIV ARR you couldn't have a pure support job. Also taking a pure support in small party content would be a waste of a slot.

BRD is not a pure DPS class. Otherwise it wouldn't have support abilities. No other DPS class has support abilities like BRD. So a balance would be (as a random number example) BRD 70% DPS 30% support. Other DPS 100% 0% support. BRD, in other words, is a hybrid.

[Sapphic]

Video about 2.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...-_vg#t=4627.25
here's the translation thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554

At around 16:50 he mentions about the bard being just a little too strong with heavy emphasis on "little". So really, I don't think they're gonna do something drastic and kill the Bard's dps

Oh you should know, in any MMO if any changes are advertised without specific details, so many run around in a panic ^_^.

Not to mention, many times in translation things are lost. (I speak 4 languages so have first hand experience of trying to tell jokes from other languages into english XD)

[Talia-Kali]

Bard is fine as is - Coil basically defines all roles - making each shine individually in the role they were designed for.

One change i'd like to see is TP bars on the party HUD. I want to know what my teams TP is so I can top them up as needed.

Anyway, why are we nerfing pre-pvp? Shouldn't you wait till after PvP to nerf.

And why are people complaining about Bards - if they are so OP in PvE you should be happy - get you your tomes faster.

[Lecreuset]

Damn so many paranoid Bards in here lol

[Nooblet]

BRD has support abilities. With the structure of FFXIV ARR you couldn't have a pure support job. Also taking a pure support in small party content would be a waste of a slot.

BRD is not a pure DPS class. Otherwise it wouldn't have support abilities. No other DPS class has support abilities like BRD. So a balance would be (as a random number example) BRD 70% DPS 30% support. Other DPS 100% 0% support. BRD, in other words, is a hybrid.

Actually EVERY "dps" class has support abilities. Bard has a little bit more support than the others.. and it's already offset by them doing lower damage while using them. Do you really think people that have 2 bards in group are doing it for the songs? Newsflash.. they aren't.

Having more viable silences from some other class or classes would go a long way in preventing people from taking multiple bards, as they already do lower dps than others, unless other is played by bads.